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Posted: 8/23/2005 6:53:36 AM EDT
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Hey folks, I just placed an order for one of ORF's WASR custom rifles (my first AK!!). I was wondering what people thought about these puppies and what I can expect as far as quality is concerned. Thanks in advance! John |
| Okay does yours have the muzzle break? If so don't fire it with it one, my friend had two of them have a problem with the bullets hitting the break and deflecting way off target. Its not really ORFs problem because Century just threaded their left over single stack post ban aks to make them sun set rifles. The threads on his have a huge chung out of it and just looks like a monkey must have done it. Another thing is his sight block is canted not too bad, well not enough to really knock off your accuracy but enough to be able to tell. Century just took absolutly no time with these rifles. I find all the Century AKs from 2002 back are good guns no problems for me to speak of but these new ones that they were trying to pump out after the ban sunseted to meet demand are just worthless pieces and aren't worth the money in my oppinion. The coating they put on the gun is nice but for some reason they parked the chrome gas piston. The whole reason they are chrome is so they don't get as dirty and are easier to clean. With the Park on there is just soaks up the blow back and probably will work on the coating until it comes off. Their customer service on Bobs part was a bit weak it seemed in my experience after the whole incident with the Muzzle break on my friends AK. We took it back their and he didn't want to take it back even though it was his product that wasn't working. Bob had a bit of an attitide about it but Todd to the situation into his hands and made it right and did it super fast with a great attitide and I comend him for that. It was an after market Break but they should still test fire their AKs before they sell them. Thats my opinion though and thats what forums are for. |
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Akspray, What kind of aftermarket brake did you put on your friends 47? Are you sure the rifle was made by century and then redone by ORF? The reason I ask is because the ak-47 I bought from ORF was a Romanian AK they reparked & built. And it came w/the requested ak-74 brake, I was told I could have the ak-74 brake or a slant brake. The gas piston on mine did have some overspray, about 1 inch where the piston screws into the carrier, but I don't care. Still cleans up easily and runs and runs lol. As for the canted front sight, thats a century problem on the older guns century put out, not a issue these days I don't think. And definately not from ORF, no way. I haven't had any problems with my ORF AK, I've had it almost a year now and put several thousand rounds down range. As for Todd and ORF's customer service I've always enjoyed my experiences with them. I got one of their FAL's in 2003, no issues and also thousands more rounds downrange. I would have no problem buying again from them in the future. Threejean if you check around you'll find ORF has a good rep and their prices are hard to beat. All rifles come with a 1yr warranty, that and the good prices is why I bought from them initially, the service and quality is why I come back. If you want I'll post some pics of my ORF AK later. I refinished it in gunkote so its black instead of the grey park. Park holds gunkote/duracoat very well  Blackops_1. |
| It wasnt an after market break we put on it it was the one it came with the 74 style one. I'm not saying that the Ak is bad or anything its really accurate and reliable but that whole muzzle break thing was pretty weak on Bobs part. Other than that experience i havent had any problem with Bob I like them and I intend to go there this weekend to get some mags for my 74. Yes it was a Century arms AK. One of the ones that they modified for hi cap mags. i wont ever buy a Century firearm ever again because of that. My Century Ak for 2002 was awesome shot great great gun but after that year they really went down hill. |
| ORF isn't taking any builds right now because they are moving locations and they dont want to lose anything in the move I guess. Soon they'll be taking some work and I really want to get mine built, now that I sold my AK to my brother I don't have one and I feel naked without it. |
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I knew about the move but I read even after that they are doing so much business selling rifles that they were going to just do that and let the other builders concentrate on that part of the market. Maybe they changed their mind, I dunno. Anyway I finally found one of my older pics of my ORF Ak, picture it w/the 74 brake instead of the slant in this pic, and with the standard grip instead of the tapco grip in this pic, and just being parked. Parked just looks more grey. And then threejean you'll have a idea of what you'll be getting. Unfortunately I don't have any original pics of it still on my pc, after windows blew up all that was lost.  Blackops_1. |
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I gave a quick call to Ohio Rapid Fire to find out what when wrong here. I spoke to Bob in retail sales and found out: WASR10s have the magwell opened up to accept hicap magazines, and since these came with threaded muzzles (However, no muzzle nut from Century Arms) they merely added the 14mm AK-74 style muzzle brake to enhance the overall appearance of the rifle. Apparently there is a problem at Century Arms and the threads are off on some rifles. The threads are off just enough to interfere with the bullet leaving the barrel and it is striking the muzzle brake. When you brought the rifle back to Ohio Rapid Fire, Bob says you came in with a bunch of your friends and were "brow beating" him concerning the rifle. He tried to explain to you that it was Century's fault, not theirs. They offered to put a slant brake on the weapon for you, but you apparently became beligerent at that point. They found another WASR for you and the matter was resolved. It sounds like you misinterpreted their response to you being beligerent as "bad customer" service. I hope your next visit is a positive one. I, as well as many others have had nothing but positive experiences with Ohio Rapid Fire. They are one of the best in the business for working with the customer if something is not right. Whether it's their fault or not. There is nothing wrong with "negative" feedback on a vendor, but calling their employees "monkeys" is very disrespectful. Remember, it's a small world and sometimes things are not forgotten easily. Take care, KF |
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AkSpray, I am not sure where the "bad attitude" was in all of it. I caught the tail end of your guys conversation. You requested another rifle, Bob B asked me and I said SURE if that is what he wants. You also requested the stock set from one to the other, again SURE and I dropped what I was doing (speaking with a used machinery vendor) and changed the set over for you. Came back set rifle on counter, went back to my conversation with my vendor. Todd@ORF |
| I shouldn’t have said that all of the employees at ORF were unintelligent monkeys because I didn't catch the end of the conversation after the whole exchange happened. Todd talked to my brother and my friend and they were very satisfied with him and I stand by their thoughts. I apologize for my comment toward you Todd you seem very professional and good at what you do but Bob really isn’t the greatest customer service rep. He acted really unprofessional and was just as disrespectful as my comment about him. We ended up getting a friend to buy a M1 Garand from his store minutes after the exchange and he was just fine so I didn't understand why he acted the way he did. I really don't understand why he acted the way he did because you don’t add a accessory to a gun if it doesn’t work. And when it doesn’t work then you have to understand when the customer comes back with a complaint. Todd dealt with us with great care and I truly I’m sorry for insulting you which was totally uncalled for but you have to understand that the second rifle that we got in exchange for the first one did the exact same thing, bullets deflecting off of the muzzle break. It’s very frustrating to get an item and it not to work when it’s right out of the box right? I'm positive that you feel the same way about it. Once again I apologize for call you the name I did. I plan on bringing you more business tomorrow in fact because I feel that we can regain the good experience that we had before at your shop. Definitely over reacted to the situation but I hope that you accept my apology but I don’t see a reason for an apology for Bob because he totally badmouthed us to anther customer. Not once did we get belligerent or say anything that was anywhere close to that. We never “brow beat” him as he said and we acted just as professionally as he should have. |
| And right now im editing my post so they don't offend anyone. But I find it Kind o fweird that I brought Bob 1200 dollars or more worth of Business and he treated us like dirt, on a rifle that had a one year warranty. Thats all I'm saying. And Keep up the good work Todd sorry about all this. |
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