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8/20/2005 8:55:08 PM EDT
anyone else having issues with recent batches of wolf 5.45x39 hp, poly coated?

i am having isses with the last case i got, failure to extract and there are some dents in some of the new rounds still in box
8/20/2005 9:45:04 PM EDT
[#1]
 Like a case with a neck that was too long?? Yup I have one
8/20/2005 10:37:20 PM EDT
[#2]
well mine are getting stuck in the chamber really tight when firing. have not measured the neck length, but definately something is going on with it

i sent an email to wolf with the lot#, hopefully they get back to me, or ill give em' a call next week
8/20/2005 10:47:14 PM EDT
[#3]
Has the hollow point stuff been known to have feeding problems with the new or old stuff in 5.45?
8/20/2005 10:51:19 PM EDT
[#4]
i hear its hit and miss with hollow points.  it could be the rifle.  i  cant find the thread but there was one with wolf HP and some  smaller caliber AK versions .  but then again, i have only fired 500 rounds thru mine, so i probably dont have anything concrete yet.  sorry if im wasting anyones time!
8/20/2005 11:36:47 PM EDT
[#5]
Sounds like more of a hassle than it is worth.

I'm gonna stick with the BARNAUL or Silver Bear stuff.

KyARGuy
8/21/2005 3:02:57 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Sounds like more of a hassle than it is worth.

I'm gonna stick with the BARNAUL or Silver Bear stuff.

KyARGuy



+1   I'm off Wolf for good!!
8/21/2005 5:22:39 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Sounds like more of a hassle than it is worth.

I'm gonna stick with the BARNAUL or Silver Bear stuff.

KyARGuy



Get some FMJ in at the store then damn it!!!!
8/21/2005 6:15:21 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Get some FMJ in at the store then damn it!!!!



Jicky,
Uhh...  I think i that is what i have there...

SILVER BEAR 5.45X39 60gr FMJ 750 RD CS
Item Number: A545NFMJ
Yup, It's FMJ....You must have been in Gander Mt. to many times this week!!

KyARGuy
8/21/2005 7:09:03 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Get some FMJ in at the store then damn it!!!!



Jicky,
Uhh...  I think i that is what i have there...

SILVER BEAR 5.45X39 60gr FMJ 750 RD CS
Item Number: A545NFMJ
Yup, It's FMJ....You must have been in Gander Mt. to many times this week!!

KyARGuy



I had'nt had my java when I posted.5.45 FMJ...Check
7.62 thats what I was looking for yesterday.....Damn my bad it's hard for even me to keep up with what I want... You going to go shoot Triburst's FAL today????

ETA: Wolf is a last resort for my ammo need's..But they will take it back and give you a refund..
8/21/2005 10:41:01 AM EDT
[#10]
I had the same failure to extract issue with my last lot of poly coated 5.45mm several times.  The lot number was N039.04.  The case would be 1/3 way out of the chamber before the extractor claw slips off causing the reload cycle to hang badly.  Whatever you do, don't close the bolt behind it to re-extract it.  It'll be stuck in the chamber so badly that it had to be hammer out with a cleaning rod from the muzzle.  The next time that happened, I held the bolt open with one hand and pry the case out with a small, flat-head screw driver. Good thing I was not in the middle of a fire fight.

No such issue with Barnaul. Note to self: Wolf for plinking; Barnaul for SHTF.
8/21/2005 11:08:44 AM EDT
[#11]
long case necks and failures to extract when the gun gets hot - yep. I shoot Barnaul now.
8/21/2005 3:44:32 PM EDT
[#12]
I'm going to email Bill at Wolf to see what he knows.


KF
8/21/2005 4:42:36 PM EDT
[#13]
YUK
FWIW- I shot a few mags of Silver Bear 5.45 for the first time today and it was about as good as blue box (Kraft M&C) Barnaul. Helping Melissa sight in her new Bulgy 74 and Kobra was rough duty.
8/21/2005 5:37:39 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
I had the same failure to extract issue with my last lot of poly coated 5.45mm several times.  The lot number was N039.04.  The case would be 1/3 way out of the chamber before the extractor claw slips off causing the reload cycle to hang badly.  Whatever you do, don't close the bolt behind it to re-extract it.  It'll be stuck in the chamber so badly that it had to be hammer out with a cleaning rod from the muzzle.  The next time that happened, I held the bolt open with one hand and pry the case out with a small, flat-head screw driver. Good thing I was not in the middle of a fire fight.

No such issue with Barnaul. Note to self: Wolf for plinking; Barnaul for SHTF.



THANK YOU!!!

this was on a lot no No38_03 so that is pretty dang close to yours.

exactly, they would extract halfway sometimes just like you said. (although i did make the mistake of rechambering, needless to say i ruined two cheapo cleaning rods now)

im sending this batch back for a refund of the full 1000rd case.

im guessing QC has gone to shit on the 5.45 due to keeping up with demand. since all the 5.45 kits have been coming in, 5.45 has been hard to order, always on bakorder online.

got a online link that sells the silver bear?

thanks again

8/21/2005 6:46:07 PM EDT
[#15]
Ask and ye shall receive.......I've had good luck with these guys, they're pretty much on the "good guy" list.

AIM Surplus

www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/copy_of_5_45x39.html
8/22/2005 11:01:11 AM EDT
[#16]
Just got this from Bill at Wolf Ammo:

KF

--------------------------------------------------------------

Troy,

This is the first I have heard of any 5.45 problems.  We received Rob's
email and asked him to call us. I'll pass the info over to the factory.

Thanks for the info.


Bill
8/22/2005 12:38:55 PM EDT
[#17]
Just called in. I think I got Bill on the phone, he was very helpful. He told me this is the first time someone is having problems with the new 5.45, well the first person who has contacted them about it.

Anyway, they are sending me some replacement stuff, and are going to look at the stuff i have.

I'll let you guys know how it works.
8/22/2005 12:43:37 PM EDT
[#18]
I had the same problem, failure to extract fully. It happened after 300 or 400 rounds of Wolf.  Gun always runs perfect with Barnaul.  I have finished that case and shot a couple more with no problems.  I thought it was a fluke.  I had to tap it out with the cleaning rod to get the shell out of the chamber.
10/13/2005 6:02:40 PM EDT
[#19]
finally getting back around to this. there were some delays on my end

i got the new case of silverbear 5.45 FMJ.  900 rds or something like hat

ups should be picking up the unused wolf soon (and wolf shipping replacemnt ammo). i've yet to try the silverbear, have not gotten a chance yet.

10/13/2005 6:33:53 PM EDT
[#20]
Wish theyd bring back the laquered cases, dump the polymer...
10/13/2005 6:40:24 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
Wish theyd bring back the laquered cases, dump the polymer...


+1, I don't like the polymer coating. Only reason they did start using polymer is because AR owners complained about the lacquer coating causing problems. I don't know why they had to make everything coated with polymer especially 5.45mm.
10/13/2005 6:46:35 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
well mine are getting stuck in the chamber really tight when firing. have not measured the neck length, but definately something is going on with it




+1 for me. The case neck is way too long. I posted pics somewhere about it.



Barnaul, Wolf, Silver Bear (Which is barnaul)
11/11/2005 12:51:21 PM EDT
[#23]
the ammo has been shipped  back to wolf now.  wonder if they will let me know if there was a problem or just ship me new stuff back
12/12/2005 12:21:43 PM EDT
[#24]
still waiting on a response from wolf on this AND REPLACEMENT AMMO!!!!!!

(yes i realie it is backordered everywhere, but wolf should have some in stock for returns)
12/12/2005 12:32:32 PM EDT
[#25]
Thanks for the update. Maybe just a check to close your tab?
12/22/2005 9:56:47 PM EDT
[#26]
still patiently waiting....
1/7/2006 1:26:19 PM EDT
[#27]
wolf told me they should be sending replacement ammo this week

hopefully this stuff works in my 74' i have a couple cases more of wolf 5.45 and little 5.45 silver bear left.
1/7/2006 1:27:22 PM EDT
[#28]
so wolf just isnt good enough for HARDCORE TACTICAL OPERATIONS!?!!?!!

sorry, had no choice but to make fun of your name
1/7/2006 2:39:41 PM EDT
[#29]
good one
1/11/2006 5:39:51 PM EDT
[#30]
got the new wolf... finally

i sent in 720 rds, they sent me 700rds replacement. and the package looked like they were dropped off a second story building. hopefully the cartidges did not get too badly messed up/ bullets pressed in to deep
(this package was my favorite)


1/12/2006 5:16:08 AM EDT
[#31]
update appreciated
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