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7/3/2005 4:59:26 PM EDT
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Thanks for the help.
7/3/2005 5:05:01 PM EDT
[#1]
Yup, what we have here is a beautiful example of a Soviet AKMS.

Isvesk Arsenal, 1970.

Dealer post-sample?
7/3/2005 5:05:25 PM EDT
[#2]
its russian
where did you get the pics ?
7/3/2005 5:07:51 PM EDT
[#3]
i thought a post same was a semi made fa by a class 3 ?
thats a russian rec
7/3/2005 5:11:48 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
i thought a post same was a semi made fa by a class 3 ?
thats a russian rec



Nope, post 86 Dealer Samples are select fire/full auto weapons that were imported after the 1968 import ban for military/law enforcement use and after the 1986 ban on manufacture.

Something like this could have been imported for T&E purposes, but not available to civvies unless they were a dealer and had a letter from a Chief LEO that their department would like a demonstration.
7/3/2005 6:12:31 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Yup, what we have here is a beautiful example of a Soviet AKMS.

Isvesk Arsenal, 1970.

Dealer post-sample?



How did you gather that from the PICS?  I see the 1970, but as for the rest I am clueless?
7/3/2005 6:13:25 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
its russian
where did you get the pics ?



Online.
7/3/2005 6:21:41 PM EDT
[#7]
I knew i should've covered the serial number before hosting pictures online. Damnit
7/3/2005 6:24:27 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I knew i should've covered the serial number before hosting pictures online. Damnit hr


Why is That?
7/3/2005 6:30:19 PM EDT
[#9]
I was kidding, i was jokingly implying that, that was my AK.

7/3/2005 6:43:13 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yup, what we have here is a beautiful example of a Soviet AKMS.

Isvesk Arsenal, 1970.

Dealer post-sample?



How did you gather that from the PICS?  I see the 1970, but as for the rest I am clueless?



Arrow in triangle is Izhevsk arsenal

A star or arrow in star is Tula arsenal, this can have a number of variations depending on when it was made.  Older Mosin Nagants,mid 1920's and earlier often had a small star.  Later MN91/30's and M44 etc had the large star with arrow.  Tula made parts have the small star, mags ,bayonets etc.

Arrow in an oval is the Kovrov arsenal, they made among other things SVT 40's and RPK's
7/3/2005 7:01:58 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yup, what we have here is a beautiful example of a Soviet AKMS.

Isvesk Arsenal, 1970.

Dealer post-sample?



How did you gather that from the PICS?  I see the 1970, but as for the rest I am clueless?



Arrow in triangle is Izhevsk arsenal

A star or arrow in star is Tula arsenal, this can have a number of variations depending on when it was made.  Older Mosin Nagants,mid 1920's and earlier often had a small star.  Later MN91/30's and M44 etc had the large star with arrow.  Tula made parts have the small star, mags ,bayonets etc.

Arrow in an oval is the Kovrov arsenal, they made among other things SVT 40's and RPK's



Thanks for all the info guys.  I'm going to remove the Pics now.  

Thanks again.
7/3/2005 7:03:10 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yup, what we have here is a beautiful example of a Soviet AKMS.

Isvesk Arsenal, 1970.

Dealer post-sample?



How did you gather that from the PICS?  I see the 1970, but as for the rest I am clueless?



You get the secret 3 ring binder with all knowledge when they make you a moderator.




Just kidding.  Firedog pretty much covered it.

Sometimes Romanian rifles get confused with Izvesk because the Romanians also use an arrow in triangle, but the Romanian mark is a "broad arrow", the fletching is much wider.

7/3/2005 7:57:50 PM EDT
[#13]
what the heck? remove the pics? I want to see what you guys have been talking about!
7/3/2005 8:11:55 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
what the heck? remove the pics? I want to see what you guys have been talking about!

7/3/2005 10:02:07 PM EDT
[#15]






Am i the only one that downloads every AK pic that they see online?

I was joking about the serial number dude, sorry to scare ya. I was tryin to make it sound like i had a full auto AK
7/4/2005 3:48:43 AM EDT
[#16]
I'd like to see the pics, too.

What's the point of taking them down?
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