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5/9/2005 4:44:43 PM EDT
I think they are going to put this guy under the jail.....

(NOTE:  I just noticed the date on this....old news....sorry, but still interesting info)

Weapons Cache Seized In Arizona

January 17, 2003

"It's disturbing to find an arsenal like this."
ATF spokesman Thomas Mangan

(CBS) Federal investigators working on a nationwide illegal-weapons case discovered an arsenal of rocket launchers, hand grenades, machine guns and military explosives in a storage locker near Phoenix, Arizona.

Authorities said among more than 200 weapons seized by agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms were at least 10 rocket launchers and bazookas, some with rockets.

The ATF agents in Arizona acted on a tip from federal authorities in Massachusetts, reports Mark Katic of CBS radio station WBZ-AM. The U.S. Attorney's office said the cache of weapons belonged to Scott Segal of Massachusetts, indicted last month on two weapons counts Massachusetts as part of an investigation into machine-gun trafficking.

"As a result of the information we received in that investigation, we sent personnel to Phoenix and a search warrant was obtained for a storage facility," said ATF spokesman Jim McNally in Boston.

The weapons cache included a rocket-propelled grenade, which is a shoulder-fired weapon that can be used against armored vehicles, as well as assault rifles, hand grenades, flame-throwers and thousands of rounds of ammunition, ATF spokesman Thomas Mangan said in Phoenix.

"It's disturbing to find an arsenal like this," said Mangan.

Agents also found antique muzzle loaders and other collectible weapons. Some weapons dated back to World War II and the Korean War.

McNally said there is nothing linking Segal to any group at this time.

"It is still early, but indications at this time are there are no such connections," he told WBZ-AM.

Segal, 40, was arrested Dec. 30 in Worcester, Mass. He was indicted in federal court on charges of being a felon in possession of firearms — a .45-caliber machine gun and a 9mm machine gun — and unlawful possession of machine guns, according to Christina Sterling, a spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney in Boston.

Segal was released Jan. 2 on a $10,000 bond — with the condition he turn over the Arizona weapons collection, according to records from U.S. District Court in Worcester, Mass.

Court records show that in 1992, federal prosecutors in Phoenix filed nine weapons charges against Segal for possessing a machine gun, unregistered firearms and a gun with no serial number. The case stemmed from a 1991 Christmas Eve search of his Tempe home.

He was convicted on one count in July 1993 and placed on two years' probation.

5/9/2005 4:49:27 PM EDT
[#1]
Shit, he probably just started braking those big rocks into little rocks.

Much as I hate to say it, there really isn't an excuse for that kind of BS and it just gives all of us who like things like this and NFA stuff a terrible name.
5/9/2005 4:53:15 PM EDT
[#2]
he could have done it all legally since he was in a free state...
5/9/2005 5:30:19 PM EDT
[#3]
he was already a convicted felon though. Still, if he's not killing people and blowing shit up, whats the problem. I'd LOVE to have a storage locker full of assault rifles, thousands of rounds of ammo, flamethrowers etc.
5/9/2005 5:53:17 PM EDT
[#4]
I'd like to have some of that shit as well and really don't see anything wrong with it as long as he isn't harming anyone who doesn't deserve it.

My opinion is that it is useful for civilians to have various repositories of weapons, ammo, explosives and information. You just never know WTF is going to happen and in all of this, who has the guy hurt?

The answer, obviously, is nobody.

And I don't find it disturbing, I find it cool as hell. What I do  find disturbing is how the .gov is reponding to this and what they are going to do the guy. He'll likely do more  time than gangbanger rapists and child molestors. What's wrong with that picture?
5/9/2005 6:03:38 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
"It's disturbing to find an arsenal like this," said Mangan.

 Some weapons dated back to World War II and the Korean War.




Oh my god, the evil bastard had old guns!

I thought everyone knew that only modern high power guns hurt people.
5/9/2005 6:03:43 PM EDT
[#6]
"It's disturbing to find an arsenal like this," said Mangan.


I bet he would say the same thing about our gun safes as well......


5/9/2005 6:26:29 PM EDT
[#7]
Thats' what I was thinking.
5/9/2005 6:44:47 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
"It's disturbing to find an arsenal like this," said Mangan.


I bet he would say the same thing about our gun safes as well......




+1
5/9/2005 7:13:40 PM EDT
[#9]
This is why we must ban assault weapons, to keep machine guns & rocket launchers out of the hands of dangeriuos convicted felons!
5/9/2005 7:13:54 PM EDT
[#10]
Well, since he's probably a gun trafficker, then yah, it is disturbing, since he only has these to sell to other criminals.
5/9/2005 7:15:46 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Well, since he's probably a gun trafficker, then yah, it is disturbing, since he only has these to sell to other criminals.





Yeah, it's disturbing in that aspect, but I just think the officer would say the same thing about our guns.
5/9/2005 7:21:58 PM EDT
[#12]
Just once, I sort of hope to see the police stumble onto an "arsenal" or "cache" of weapons that
includes NFA items....and discover that every item in it is properly registered, all the paperwork is
completely in order,  everything is stored in strict compliance with all federal, state, and local
regulations,  and the owner is under suspicion of NOTHING and no probable cause or reasonable
suspicion exists for ANYTHING.


CJ


5/9/2005 8:34:57 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
... no probable cause or reasonable suspicion exists for ANYTHING.

CJ



It may not exist when they get there, but it would before they left.  
5/10/2005 12:34:23 AM EDT
[#14]
most of the stuff he had wasint illegal hell a flamethrower isnt even somethang you have to do paperwork on
5/10/2005 5:37:08 AM EDT
[#15]
I wonder if any of the rocket launchers had bayonet lugs.  

If so, I'm glad they got those bastards off the street.
5/10/2005 5:43:56 AM EDT
[#16]
January 17, 2003

This story is two years old.
5/10/2005 5:54:06 AM EDT
[#17]
Didn't you see this at the beginning of the post?

"(NOTE: I just noticed the date on this....old news....sorry, but still interesting info)"
5/10/2005 5:56:15 AM EDT
[#18]


No problem.
5/10/2005 9:32:11 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Just once, I sort of hope to see the police stumble onto an "arsenal" or "cache" of weapons that
includes NFA items....and discover that every item in it is properly registered, all the paperwork is
completely in order,  everything is stored in strict compliance with all federal, state, and local
regulations,  and the owner is under suspicion of NOTHING and no probable cause or reasonable
suspicion exists for ANYTHING.


CJ





I'm sure it happens but you won't ever hear about that.
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