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Posted: 2/3/2003 12:28:59 PM EDT
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Rot Dorn and Krik Freak What do you have against me? Let it out here. I want to know. So please be a real man, and say what you think. Go for it. Krinkfreak, what about my forum ??? You need to start saying it straight, or not at all. The reason for whole this conflict was you know it yourself. I came here to talk about Chechnya, and experience with AKs. Instead I was attacked by Ober, Rot Dorn and couple of others for being Russian. A lot of EVIL Russian killing innocent Chechens, and that it's all my fault, and that Aquil is the man. Yet Russia didn't hijack the planes and crash them into WTC. I was acused with crimes that my older generation did. I hate the comies as much as you do. Trust me man, we don't want this bullshit back in Russia. I want to be friends with US, we have the same enemy, and we can all unite against the terrorists. We went to Chechnya to fight the muslim scum. The same scum that celebrated the death of Americans on SEP11th. The same scum that supports Ben Laden and his cells. Shit most of the Ben Laden's memmbers went through Chechnen training before settling in US. Remember Zacarias Moussaoui? the 20'th 9/11 hijacker. And did you know that he also fought against the Russians in Chechnya? Just like Aquil Collins did. But whatever between me and him, its our business. YOU attacked me first!!! With the bullshit like Stalin this, Putin that, and its all my fault. This is not a flame war. This is just me, wanting to know your problem. SO PLEASE SPEAK OUT ONCE AND FOR ALL WE WILL RESOLVE THIS RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW in front of everyone! |
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Sure, I have nothing to hide. You are a Liar and a fake. You came here under false pretence. You came here stating that you were a member of the SOBR-MVD from Russia. Your id tells people you live in Russia, when in fact you live in Pheonix AZ, and make game animation. You stole a story claiming it to be your own, when in fact it was plagarized from a book. You have pictures that you claim that you took yourself, when in fact they are AP property. There are also issues with weapons that will go unmentioned. Now, last time we supposedly had these issues ironed out, and I allowed you back on the forums. You said you would act like a man. You have not, you have continued the fraud. Now ....who is going to act like a man? |
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Just so people will remember part of this... www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=54245 This has nothing to do with what happened in the past. Campy and I were on different sides of that argument, and we forgot it and moved on. You are still the punk you were then! Why did you remove all the pics of the "fake" krink? |
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Rot Dorn, I lied about the SOBR-MVD name yes. Because you wouldn't let me back on under Desantnik name. And yet, after the SOBR issue you promiced me a new name, where is it? Also you are ignoring the issue of our first conflict. When I came here with peace, what happened back then? Why was I attacked by you and others for things our leaders did? ANd all the criticism about Chechnya? I think USA just put that country under a terrorist list. I served in Russian army, and was in Chechnya. And only certain people know all the important details about it. So if I served with a Russian Army, I can't make video games? I have a tallent, I'm using it here since I can't in Russia. The storry? What storry??? I was never in Grozny, never. I drove through it with our regiment to Hankala, I never claimed that i fought there dude. I put Russia in my location is because thats where I'm from. What does it matter? The photos I posted, I NEVER CLAIMED IN MY LIFE THAT I TOOK THEM !!!! please provide the evidence, and I will accept my mistake. do you know Maksim Marmur? Well I know him personally. He is a fotographer for Izvestia. He sent me copies of his photos, before he sold them to Associate Press (AP). I never said I TOOK THEM actually in my posts on my forum I mention his name BIG TIME !!! When did I act not like man here? Since the bullshit about the Russian Army SLAMING fiesta, i didn't want to be nice to you at all. You need to admit you were wrong about acusing me for what some Stalin or Krushev said. Your Turn |
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Well it's your opinion. Aint nothing I can do about it. At least I never trained with NAVY SEALS. Also, back up your facts, and why edit your stuff??? Just leave it as it is. I still have un answered questions. Ober you are bascially saying yourself, that you attacked me since the begining. Not true? |
I didn't skip shit punk!
I told you that you had to reregister, Goatboy is the only one with those powers.
That discussion was going nowhere, and was just a source of conflict. Neither side had anything new to put in.
Do you have a DThor Seal team 1 pin to prove it?
No, but you can be honest, and not troll this site, and bring it down to the sewer level of 47.nutz
anybody that went to .nutz knew about the stories that you "wrote" Campy was the one who told me where you plagarized it from.
Evidence...long gone like your "fake" krink
no I don't know him.
You are correct you never said you took them....from a Chechyan website about the war.
Who is digging up old arguments? Seems like you don't remember what you said from one lie to another! Grow up son.  |
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NAVY SEALS ??? and this is coming from a SEAL wanabe? Old times right? NO, you tolled me that you will soon tell me all the info about creating a new name. "Dest, I will try to get Goat to take care of this, I am not sure if he can do it as the passwords are hidden in the system. I will email him and ask him to work on it Rot" Good going! Or how about my friend Chabloink, that you said he was your friend, and you guys shoot a lot. LOL the day before this all shit started. IF YOU DO SOME RESEARCH, WHICH YOU REALLY NEED TO DO. I NEVER SAID THAT I WAS IN GROZNY, or fought THERE. N E V E R. I did however posted the link to V.Mironov's Assault on Grozny. Please do some search on AK47net, and read JESUS. Why bring the lies here on me? All the storries I wrote took place where? VEDENO, JANI, GUDERMES and Itum Kali. CHECK AGAIN DUDE. Nothing to do with Mironov's assault on Grozny. again , who's lying here???? You don't believe me that I served. HERE CHECK IF YOU HAVE Any CHANCE or connection WITH THE GOVERNMENT OR WHO EVER. I'm willing to put my information here, why not. I'm here to prove you a point. Roma Stepanov M 1996 - 106 VDD/51pdp v/ch - 41450 Tula transf -96 3rd(gv MSD)/ Division M/245th regiment (Moskovski VO) Private v/ch - 62892 Enter to Chechnya April 18th 1996 Vedeno District. Comander-pod-polkovnik Vladimir Vasiliev. 8batalion of 245 in Vedeno(svedena s)Permskii OMON Jani-Vedeno - Gudermes - Yarish Mardi -Hankala-Mozdok Signed off May 16th Mozdok |
Yeah, that pretty much names the main people. I am sure the are others in there somewhere, but that covers it enough. What does Campy have to do with this? Are you trying to bring him into a dispute between other people, thats not a nice thing to do. |
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Did the info above just bounced off your head or something? Since you wanted to test me with your bullshit questions on how does the Russian infantry is deployed, and what weapons are used, look above and read the info. There are solutions for THICK SCULLS, sometimes I wish they could jsut stop making so many dick pumps, and invent one for BRAIN. |
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What does Campy have to do with this? Are you trying to bring him into a dispute between other people, thats not a nice thing to do. THATS BECAUSE IF THERE IS ONE PERSON HERE WHO KNOWS HIS SHIT, and CAN back up with information, its CAMPY BOB FOR SURE! You don't want me to bring him, just because he knows who is right here. Why not hear it from him. He's been around for a while!!! |
I didn't read "the onfo above" its probably BS like the rest of what you say.
I wanted to hear it from you. You never answered the questions. This proves nothing to me. Too many things you said make no sense.
What????????????????? Is that a threat, I don't get it. I would hate for you to threaten me. If it is just say so please. Your emotions are getting ahead of your typing. You are trying to bring in Campy to bail you out because you know we differ on this issue. I know where he stands and so does Rot. It is still juvinile to do this. You started this, you finnish it. The problem is that no one here believes you. You could be telling the truth now, but you have cried Wolf too many times. I think this is what it boils down to. |
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-I didn't read "the onfo above" its probably BS like the rest of what you say. - CHECK IT MY FRIEND! ! ! You probably don't even know that the hell is 106 or 245 or VDD or MSD. Why ask me about the deployment of our forces? If you were testing me, and you know so much about our military like you said before. then please don't make a fool out of yourself, and tell me what those numbers and letter mean. The real people who know shit, they DO KNOW IT! The reason why I didn't tell you about the deployment of our stuff is because there is no specific rule on how to deploy it. Yeah there is a book, but we never study it. They trained us how to shoot, maintain your AK-74, and how to make sure you do everything that your CO tells you to do. What deployment????? WHAT THREAT ???? Why take things and totally make them into a different subject? Read what you are saying!!! |
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I can't help but wonder, if you guys really don't like this guy, why are you wasting your time? SOBR, if you want to pick a fight, go down to your local bar like a "real man". I know, I'll save you the effor. I consider myself told to F...off.TJ gone and not coming back to this thread. |
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I'm not here to pick up a fight. I'm here to be straight, instead of using "I have my own views and opinions of the DesantnikVDV forum residing on the other board, and I guess I should just keep them to myself." "I would buy one, only if packaged with a free AOL disk, and the cost of the DVD is equal. I was wondering will a demo be on your website? Will the photos be as good as your AP others? Will the story be as good as Seige on Grozny your other? " "Some people (who I will not name) came here under a lie, post lies, and try to live a lie. I personally have no use for a liar, this person is no better than somebody (who I will not name) that is a faux seal! An endorsement of his post would take us lower than 47.nutz level" TALKING ABOUT BEING A MAN?????? JUST SAY IT HERE TO ME, straight out. And if you can back up your facts, then again I will say sorry to those who I offended, and will diseaper. |
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as much as I hate to add to this bile... (sorry) it seems like this is just degenerating down to a shouting match. It's obvious everyone has their sides and is not going to be dissuaded. And considering that many of you will probably never meet in person and there is no real solution to this, why not just kill it for everyones' sake. my 2 cents. take it or leave it. |
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Well I must go with Chabloink I provided all the information here, and facts to prove my point. Rot Dorn didn't, Ober, well hahahaha it's obvious. Can't bring the valid facts with prove, so I must say this should be over. There are things about you Rot Dorn I know, I really don't wanna say it all here. Well I'm sure some people here already know them. But why should I announce the things I hear from people here. At least I can prove my facts. Enough said. With much Respect ME |
I swear if people think I am making this shit up...this dolt is for real! Some people are too stupid for words
Duh dolt! when he didn't do it I can't make him! In the next IM I told you to reregister, anf make a slight change in the Dest name. Can you brush your teeth with out a seeing eye dog?
You really are stupid aren't you! I copied your link from 47.nutz Ober, Krink, Campy all knew what I was talking about. Plus anybody with an IQ of 12 knows there isn't a desert in TN, much less named thed Elvis desert.
Look shortbus I never said you were in Grozny, YOU PLAGARIZED YOUR STORY FROM A BOOK ON GROZNY!
You brought the lies, I brought them to light
The names were changed to protect the innocent...this leaves Alexi out!
I'll check with the Russian council in the am, we have them all over our state[/scarism] |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Or how about my friend Chabloink, that you said he was your friend, and you guys shoot a lot. LOL the day before this all shit started. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You really are stupid aren't you! I copied your link from 47.nutz Ober, Krink, Campy all knew what I was talking about. Plus anybody with an IQ of 12 knows there isn't a desert in TN, much less named thed Elvis desert. DUDE Don't even GO THERE !!!! After Chabloink sent you an e-mail, the thread mysteriously disapeared really fast. And then you began saying the desert, and the Elvis thing. LOL Come on man. We remember.The topic was about AK-103s, not me or Grozny. It was deleted like the NAVY SEAL stuff right? OH well, who cares. Gotta go and apply for BUDs. Who knows I might come back here in a year or so as a Seal Diver. Later |
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You know, maybe you should listen to Chabloink. I swear guys!...I couldn't make up this funny of a story! Anybody that was around that night will remember! Damn SOBR... you are a real piece of work!  Instead of applying to BUDS, maybe you can talk some of the other neighborhood kiddies into playing Army!....you already have a "toy" gun! BWHAHAHAHhahahhaha! |
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SOBR-MVD: I don't know you, and I have no way in hell of confirming any of the information you have given to me about your rank and deployment. Posting Russian passports, INS info or Russian military documents online could perhaps clear some things up in that respect. Personally, I find it absolutely bizarre that a Russian veteran that served the hell hole of Chechnya would post glamour shots of himself with a fake Krink. That doesn't fit the mentality of vets who have seen combat in my book. At least you could show us pictures of yourself if and when you were actually there in 1996. Moreover, all of my comments about Russia, communists have either been in good fun or I was bashing pro-statism. I do not agree with this so-called "war on terror" when in fact both the Russia and the American governments are 90% to blame for what happened on 9/11. The CCCP invaded Afghanland back in 1979, and I could write a book on all the foreign policy s#$t dating back to 1948 with the creation of the GOVERNMENT of Israel, supported by the British and American governments. Don't forget all of our mingling in Iran, Lebanon, and IRAQ prior to the Persian Gulf War. Regardless, when you say you support Putin, that means you support a member of the KGB, and all the reforms and laws that he has passed. He has clamped down on the news media in Russia, he has brought back Soviet era symbols, he has published propaganda material for children that praises Putin and the state, he has rebuilt the KGB and started a "tax police" force, and the list goes on. If you oppose communism, or socialism in general, then you should oppose Putin. Also, if you understood the history of Chechnya, you would recognize that the real terrorist lie within the walls of the Kremlin, not in Grozny. I don't know what ?"Basayrev"? and his cronies did prior to 1994, but all indications say that Russia was POed that Chechnya could potentially seperate and cause a chain reaction throughout Russian provinces who are predominately non-Slavic or are muslim. It's a classic case of state control and power, and it has nothing to do with the WEST vs. ISLAM, because Russia was never nor will never be a part of the West. As long as you folks have a secret police, put a czarist like leader in power, and willfully commit mass attrocities every 50 years or so, you'll always be deep in the s##tter. themao 
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Rotdorn your credibility is unquestionable. I believe everything you've said. Don't waste your time on this drivel. This guy is full of shit, and he along with his drivel belong on AK-47 Nutz. Just leave it alone and shortbus will eventually go back home to his own forum. The issue concerning the Krinkov gets to me. At first he claims it's a digital animation, then they claim it's "fake" receiver...but won't post any additional photos of it...but then he gets upset when I post photos for him (from his own forum!!)...yeah, okay whatever. I don't care for individuals who can't tell the truth. I consider this my last post on this individual. He's not worth my time. KF |
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Sobr, If I were to check the information you posted, what do you think they would tell me. Jack sh*t. No military would give out that info to a civilian from another country. Again, your info is worthless. I have a small clue about Russian military tactics. I have studied them in detail from The Winter War on. I have been trained to fight aginst them in mountain warfare and Gureilla (SP?) warfare. I have somewhat of a clue. I know no unit does things exactly by the book, that is why I was asking you dipshit. If I didn't know a little about what I was talking about I wouldn't have asked. I may not be up on the most current issue weapons as I have been spending time looking into older weapons recently, but Russian tactics change slowly. Awwww come on Krink, pile on. It's fun! The more he opens his mouth the deeper he dig his own hole. Its like beating up your little brother just because you can. |
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LittleJacek Thank you for support. Like Rot Dorn said. let's move on. I gave them all the information about me. Those who know how to check (You know who I'm talking about) already did, and confirmed. It ain't gonna work no matter what I say. Its just this summer I'll bring lots of proof back with me, and we also know what we gonna do there this summer. Hehehe WILL BE TRIP OF OUR LIVES. |
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jeez! i go turn wrenches on my pos bmw (no! i DIDN'T get it running!!! heheh!) and come back to this! whew!!! man, it's just like the old daze! (now, where's ho dung and davey da fake seal?!?!) roma asked for my opinion, so i'll give it. please take it for the less than 2 cents it is worth. i believe what roma has said about himself. from his debute on ak47nutz, i have enjoyed his writings (which do bear a STRIKING similarity to mironov's work). i never attributed anything more than "fiction" as a catagory, though. i have, in the past, liked volk, thorgul and a couple other of the rus who's screen names now escape me. roma may have a tendancy to use the net to enhance his history and persona. i don't really know. unlike the lying seal, i can't go to "cyber vdv" and find out who was or was not a paratrooper. i've seen many on the web that sought to be something more than what they were in real life...and it always leaves me feeling more sadness than anger that some men feel the need to portray themselves as something they are not. i am more than happy to sit back and listen and learn from roma. i can sort fact from fiction for myself. i do not hold the fact that desantnik seems to defend a liar and his minions. that is his choice, and all i can do is present the facts as best i know them to roma, and let him form his own conclusions. i would sit down and drink a beer or three with roma, just as i would, and have done with several of the respondants on this thread. it is my belief that we have more in common with roma than is being expressed in this post. roma has never threatened me, that i know of. i do not think he has lied about me, at least to my knowledge. and those are the reasons i chose not to remain at ak-47nutz...to many that claimed to have honor had none. i admire roma's call to get it all out in the open...and this is where my chips lay. please excuse my rambling. i don't pretend to be a great thinker or writer...i'm just here for the kalashnikov and some fun. remember "fun"? this is what we should be having. i think we should all shake hands, be grateful we are living in the united states of america and start fresh. |
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it's an '86 325es, newbushmaster...about 150k on the clock and no spark at the plugs. tonight, while the world was waging cyber-war, i was getting greasy replacing the bosch motronic "brain-box...aka, da big honkin' computer...and the ignition system relay. next, i'll toss a coil at it...but i fear i know what the problem is. she may need a new flywheel. there are 2 sensors on the bellhousing that read the flywheel teeth (engine movement) and a sensor target on the periphery of the flywheel (engine timing). thru a mirror, i'm not sure i can tell if the target is on the flywheel or if it has been flung off and all i'm seeing is the pocket where it was epoxied to the flywheel. both sensors have been replaced. if either sensor is not triggered, there will be no spark. aaaarrrrgggghhhh! damn overgrown volkswagon! with my luck, i'll be dropping that tranny (5-sped) and stuffing a clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing AND a new flywheel in there! lol! |
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