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3/14/2014 12:03:34 PM EDT
Would a US made magazine count as 3 parts on compliance as long as the body,follower and floor plate are all US made. then if the forward hand guards(1 part) and either the trigger or bolt..then you would have 5 US parts...correct?
3/14/2014 12:55:38 PM EDT
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Mag body, spring and follower = 3.

The trigger and hammer = 2.

Handguards = 1.

Unless you have an older kit, your barrel will probably be U.S.-made and, of course, the receiver.

The bolt is typically not used as a compliance part; gas piston is more common.
3/14/2014 4:44:59 PM EDT
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Don't think I've ever seen a U.S. made bolt.
3/16/2014 6:50:59 AM EDT
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What is the penalty for not having the correct number of compliment parts? Is a rifle without the correct number considered a class3 or other?
3/16/2014 7:07:31 AM EDT
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3/16/2014 8:08:43 AM EDT
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Theoretically. To date nobody has been charged solely with a lone 922r violation. It's one of those charges they'll add on after they raid your house for illegal machineguns or murder or something big. If they can't prosecute you for the big thing for whatever reason, they'll have that to fall back on. Though it's their burden of proof to show it's not compliant, and even then it only applies to when it was assembled, not as it's sitting in the owner's hands. Whether or not putting on tacticool handguards constitutes assembly though is anyone's guess.
3/16/2014 12:48:58 PM EDT
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So what is the time line for compliant parts? What date does the compliant parts kick in? if you assembled a ak before that date without compliant parts is it legal? Next question how would they know when it was assembled? I know they have to prove guilt, but you still have to hire a liar, oh I mean lawyer
3/16/2014 1:04:20 PM EDT
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If the ATF ever wanted to start busting people for 922r it wouldn't matter where your parts are made. They would just say its non compliant and start changing parts
3/16/2014 1:25:23 PM EDT
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Mag body, spring and follower = 3.

The trigger and hammer = 2.

Handguards = 1.

Unless you have an older kit, your barrel will probably be U.S.-made and, of course, the receiver.

The bolt is typically not used as a compliance part; gas piston is more common.
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Trigger, hammer, sear, new triggerset is 3 parts.

And just to be clear, the mag parts that count are the body, floorplate, and follower. The spring doesn't count. But still 3 parts.
3/16/2014 5:03:08 PM EDT
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Sometime around 1989 if configured in a preban condition or 1994 if it was assembled with a thumbhole stock and no muzzle threads as an example.  Of course, no one really made many compliant parts before then anyway.  The bar kept being raised as years went by on how a rifle had to be configured.

Probably would never matter until that one day a new from the academy police officer or ATF agent decided to grab your gun off the table at a local range and tear it apart.
3/16/2014 5:03:37 PM EDT
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3/16/2014 11:10:30 PM EDT
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First they water board you untill you confess to weapons trafficking. Then you are sentenced to 20 years of being ganged raped in prison.
3/17/2014 9:49:56 AM EDT
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Sometime around 1989 if configured in a preban condition or 1994 if it was assembled with a thumbhole stock and no muzzle threads as an example.  Of course, no one really made many compliant parts before then anyway.  The bar kept being raised as years went by on how a rifle had to be configured.

Probably would never matter until that one day a new from the academy police officer or ATF agent decided to grab your gun off the table at a local range and tear it apart.
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So what is the time line for compliant parts? What date does the compliant parts kick in? if you assembled a ak before that date without compliant parts is it legal? Next question how would they know when it was assembled? I know they have to prove guilt, but you still have to hire a liar, oh I mean lawyer


Sometime around 1989 if configured in a preban condition or 1994 if it was assembled with a thumbhole stock and no muzzle threads as an example.  Of course, no one really made many compliant parts before then anyway.  The bar kept being raised as years went by on how a rifle had to be configured.

Probably would never matter until that one day a new from the academy police officer or ATF agent decided to grab your gun off the table at a local range and tear it apart.



How would a PO or an ATF field agent, if even at a range to pick up "your gun" to start tearing it apart, even know what parts were compliant or not?
There is no requirement for parts to be marked where they were made.

Also, possession of a firearm with more that the allowed imported parts is perfectly fine, its the assembly of a firearm with more than the allowed imported parts that is the problem.
3/17/2014 5:55:08 PM EDT
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So when I get my SLR-104FR it won't be a problem to swap the pistol grip and hand guards with a Russian AKS-74 plum set, and the muzzle brake with a Russian faceted short collar brake?
3/17/2014 6:00:02 PM EDT
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Depends. Are those parts already marked "us" on them? If so, you'll need "us" marked plum stuff too, or swap out some parts.



 
3/17/2014 6:03:30 PM EDT
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From what my brother says is compliant parts are boldly marked USA. I don't know if that is entirely true, I have seen triggers and hammers marked Tapco G2 but did not say USA. It is just another FU rule to further complicate owning a firearm.What difference does it make (ever hear that before)where the part is made.When I lived in New Jersey an ar 15 with a flash hider and bayonet lug were banned. An ar 15 without flash hider or bayonet was legal, but an FAL,HK, G3 or M1a without either were not allowed. WTF. We have ass holes in charge. It all comes down to charging one with as many violations as possible so they will cop to a lesser charge when LE does not have a real case. Why can a woman have an abortion but if her boy friend kills her when she is pregnant he is charged with two murders?
3/17/2014 6:06:27 PM EDT
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So when I get my SLR-104FR it won't be a problem to swap the pistol grip and hand guards with a Russian AKS-74 plum set, and the muzzle brake with a Russian faceted short collar brake?
Depends. Are those parts already marked "us" on them? If so, you'll need "us" marked plum stuff too, or swap out some parts.
 

I'll keep a Tapco mag next to the rifle while at the range.  There...back to 6
3/17/2014 6:20:29 PM EDT
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I'll keep a Tapco mag next to the rifle while at the range.  There...back to 6
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So when I get my SLR-104FR it won't be a problem to swap the pistol grip and hand guards with a Russian AKS-74 plum set, and the muzzle brake with a Russian faceted short collar brake?
Depends. Are those parts already marked "us" on them? If so, you'll need "us" marked plum stuff too, or swap out some parts.

 


I'll keep a Tapco mag next to the rifle while at the range.  There...back to 6

Or you could try this if you wanted to just play it safe....








 

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