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2/8/2014 8:20:02 AM EDT
So, I'm fairly new to the AK platform and in reading around I've noticed that many discussions indicate that the best magazines for an AK are the Bulgarian Waffle mags, so-called "circle 10" but I notice they are also quite expensive.



Can you help me understand why they are said to be "the best" and what advantages they offer over the steel mags.



I picked up a number of used steel mags, and brand new Zastava steel mags and am now second-guessing my decision to go with steel mags.



Thanks for any information you can share.
2/8/2014 8:22:44 AM EDT
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The steel mags are fine, the polymer ones are just lighter.
2/8/2014 8:30:01 AM EDT
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The circle 10 mags are mostly polymer so they are light and wont rust, but they have steel reinforcements in all high stress areas so they are considered to be as durable as steel mags.
2/8/2014 8:33:53 AM EDT
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The plastic on those mags have a special blend of elf hair fibers and space age polymers. They don't crack, dent, and pretty much scratch resistant.

It's the benchmark in terms of AK mag durability. Everyone else is trying to catch up. Having said that, Russian polymers are good too, but they are more expensive and virtually unobtanium in the US.
2/8/2014 12:06:59 PM EDT
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2/8/2014 12:47:15 PM EDT
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Anyone claiming polymer mags to be superior to steel mags is talking out his backside.  Steel mags are the way to go.  From my experience, Yugo steel are the best and most consistent.  I have about ten Circle 10 7.62 mags, but would take steel over them any day of the week.  

Some talk about rust.  OK.  Let's talk about rust.  If you are so delinquent in taking care of your firearms that your steel mag actually rusts to the point that it's unusable, you have more serious issues at hand.  It's not like some sort of magic pixie dust can be sprinkled on your rifle to keep it from rusting.  If you take marginal care of your firearms, rusty steel mags will not be an issue.

Weight.  What's the difference?  An ounce?  Two ounces?  Who cares.  It's not *that* much...
2/8/2014 1:17:33 PM EDT
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Bulgy 10 poly mags are not better or worse than com bloc steel mags. They are "equally" as good, with the added benefit of "no rust". Regardless....both will serve you well.
2/8/2014 2:13:42 PM EDT
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Anyone claiming polymer mags to be superior to steel mags is talking out his backside.  Steel mags are the way to go.  From my experience, Yugo steel are the best and most consistent.  I have about ten Circle 10 7.62 mags, but would take steel over them any day of the week.  

Some talk about rust.  OK.  Let's talk about rust.  If you are so delinquent in taking care of your firearms that your steel mag actually rusts to the point that it's unusable, you have more serious issues at hand.  It's not like some sort of magic pixie dust can be sprinkled on your rifle to keep it from rusting.  If you take marginal care of your firearms, rusty steel mags will not be an issue.

Weight.  What's the difference?  An ounce?  Two ounces?  Who cares.  It's not *that* much...
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Except when you get a dent in the side of the steel mag
2/8/2014 4:46:35 PM EDT
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So, I'm fairly new to the AK platform and in reading around I've noticed that many discussions indicate that the best magazines for an AK are the Bulgarian Waffle mags, so-called "circle 10" but I notice they are also quite expensive.



Can you help me understand why they are said to be "the best" and what advantages they offer over the steel mags.



I picked up a number of used steel mags, and brand new Zastava steel mags and am now second-guessing my decision to go with steel mags.



Thanks for any information you can share.
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There is also an AK Mag forum around somewhere. A lot of us haunt both of these forums.

 









2/8/2014 4:56:37 PM EDT
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Dents can be worked out plus you can buy a minimum of two steel versus just one circle ten. Just stay away from those glossy Korean mags there not mil spec
2/8/2014 6:25:12 PM EDT
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Yes they can be worked out easily but not in the field under stress when you need that mag you dropped.
2/8/2014 6:40:45 PM EDT
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Yep. I love bulgy circle 10's, but won't waste my money on them at current prices. Steel surplus mags are strong as hell and work great.
2/8/2014 6:46:56 PM EDT
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The steel mags are fine.  I have a few waffle mags and they are quieter than metal.

I like the E. German, Hungarian, and Romanian, in that order.
2/8/2014 7:57:14 PM EDT
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Anyone claiming polymer mags to be superior to steel mags is talking out his backside.  Steel mags are the way to go.  From my experience, Yugo steel are the best and most consistent.  I have about ten Circle 10 7.62 mags, but would take steel over them any day of the week.  

Some talk about rust.  OK.  Let's talk about rust.  If you are so delinquent in taking care of your firearms that your steel mag actually rusts to the point that it's unusable, you have more serious issues at hand.  It's not like some sort of magic pixie dust can be sprinkled on your rifle to keep it from rusting.  If you take marginal care of your firearms, rusty steel mags will not be an issue.

Weight.  What's the difference?  An ounce?  Two ounces?  Who cares.  It's not *that* much...
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I will trade you 10 steel mags for those 10 circle 10's you got.  I will be waiting for your PM.

Joseph
2/8/2014 8:22:55 PM EDT
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The steel mags are fine.

I like the E. German, Hungarian, and Romanian, in that order.
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I would amend that to: Russian slabsides, E. German, Russian regular, Chinese, Polish, Yugo, Hungarian, Romanian.
2/9/2014 5:05:25 AM EDT
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How can one tell if their not mil-spec? Theres a guy at the local gun show every month sell a huge tote of glossy brand new korean mags for about $15. I was going to buy some but I have quite a few steel mags already. Is there any real disadvantages to these? Any real reason to stay away??
2/9/2014 5:58:36 AM EDT
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Don't second guess the decision to go with steel. As long as they're combloc steel, they're going to be awesome mags. I have some bulgy Circle 10's which are great mags, but I also waited till K-Var had their 4 mags for $80 deal with the SLR107 sale to get them. I gave a bunch of $$ to both AIM and SGAmmo (both insanely great vendors) for a bunch of Russian and Bulgarian milspec steel mags and I actually prefer these to my Circle 10's. I even like my commercial steel bulgy mags better. Really, both are great mags, in the end, it probably boils down to personal preference.
2/9/2014 6:17:23 AM EDT
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I will trade you 10 steel mags for those 10 circle 10's you got.  I will be waiting for your PM.

Joseph
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Anyone claiming polymer mags to be superior to steel mags is talking out his backside.  Steel mags are the way to go.  From my experience, Yugo steel are the best and most consistent.  I have about ten Circle 10 7.62 mags, but would take steel over them any day of the week.  

Some talk about rust.  OK.  Let's talk about rust.  If you are so delinquent in taking care of your firearms that your steel mag actually rusts to the point that it's unusable, you have more serious issues at hand.  It's not like some sort of magic pixie dust can be sprinkled on your rifle to keep it from rusting.  If you take marginal care of your firearms, rusty steel mags will not be an issue.

Weight.  What's the difference?  An ounce?  Two ounces?  Who cares.  It's not *that* much...


I will trade you 10 steel mags for those 10 circle 10's you got.  I will be waiting for your PM.

Joseph


This sarcastic counterpoint is nonsensical.  The Circle 10s are worth more and we both know that the trade would be lopsided.  Being worth more does not make the Circle 10s better.  It just means that they are more scarce.  That said, I wouldn't hesitate to sell my ten Circle 10 mags and put that money towards twenty steel Yugos.
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