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6/6/2012 7:01:20 AM EDT
Okay, so I tried bump firing for the first time last night.  I started to get the hang of it but I had issues where the trigger would not reset and the hammer was forward.  Is this an issue with bump firing in general or is there something 'wrong' with my AK?  I ask because I've had the same kind of issues in the past with just regular firing.  I've corrected the issue from the past by adding C clips on the trigger pin/hammer pin so as to reduce the side to side play between the trigger and the hammer.  I no longer have the issue when firing 'correctly'.  I've put the C clips in because I no longer have the Shepard's crook in there. So is this a trigger issue or is it just something that happens when bump firing?

Here's a clip to show what my experience was:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPDqA20_XSQ&feature=youtu.be
6/6/2012 7:19:03 AM EDT
[#1]
Sounds like something is wrong with your FCG or it's not installed correctly.

When the hammer is forward had it stripped a new, live round from the mag or is the empty casing still in the chamber or is the chamber empty. If there is a live round in the chamber but the hammer is forward it's not being caught by the disconnector. If the spent case is still in the chamber then the bolt/charging handle isn't cycling back far enough.

Who made the FCG?
6/6/2012 7:21:35 AM EDT
[#2]
There is a live round in the chamber.  It's a Tapco G2 trigger kit.
6/6/2012 7:37:20 AM EDT
[#3]
So it's cycling fine the disconnector isn't "catching" the hammer, are you sure the correct spring is under the disconnector?  You could try to reinstall it but I'd just send it back to TAPCO, they have a lifetime warranty. Also get either a retaining plate or the correct Shepards crook/hook for it.
6/6/2012 8:51:13 AM EDT
[#4]
From what I've seen...it's common on many rifles (not just AK's) for the hammer to follow the bolt forward with a live round in the chamber when bump firing.  Simply put...that's not how the firearm was intended to be used.  Sort of like limp wristing a semi auto pistol.  If it works fine under normal operating conditions I'd personally leave it be...but I don't bump fire either and if that's your goal a different trigger may be in order.

CMS
6/6/2012 9:03:43 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
From what I've seen...it's common on many rifles (not just AK's) for the hammer to follow the bolt forward with a live round in the chamber when bump firing.  Simply put...that's not how the firearm was intended to be used.  Sort of like limp wristing a semi auto pistol.  If it works fine under normal operating conditions I'd personally leave it be...but I don't bump fire either and if that's your goal a different trigger may be in order.

CMS


+1. Semi autos pose inconsistencies when bump-firing. Wasn't meant to be used that way, and it doesn't have internal mechanisms to regulate it. I've had the same problem with some of my AK's. I wouldn't worry about it.
6/6/2012 9:25:33 AM EDT
[#6]
I would tend to think something is wrong with the FCG though as he stated he had the same issues before while firing the rifle normally. He added "C" clips and said the problem was better but now it happens while bump firing. I personally have never seen this happen from bumping a rifle. Not saying that couldn't be the issue but I suspect it's something to do with the FCG.
6/6/2012 3:04:41 PM EDT
[#7]
Real quick what does FCG stand for? Fire control group?
6/6/2012 4:10:04 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Real quick what does FCG stand for? Fire control group?


Correct. TAPCO is a site sponsor as well IIRC and have a forum in the industry partners section. They have a good reputation for customer service. I'd swap out that FCG and go from there.

I've seen quite a bit of bump firing and never seen the problem that you're describing.
6/6/2012 4:26:41 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
From what I've seen...it's common on many rifles (not just AK's) for the hammer to follow the bolt forward with a live round in the chamber when bump firing.  Simply put...that's not how the firearm was intended to be used.  Sort of like limp wristing a semi auto pistol.  If it works fine under normal operating conditions I'd personally leave it be...but I don't bump fire either and if that's your goal a different trigger may be in order.

CMS


+1. Semi autos pose inconsistencies when bump-firing. Wasn't meant to be used that way, and it doesn't have internal mechanisms to regulate it. I've had the same problem with some of my AK's. I wouldn't worry about it.


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6/6/2012 4:51:48 PM EDT
[#10]


+1. Semi autos pose inconsistencies when bump-firing. Wasn't meant to be used that way, and it doesn't have internal mechanisms to regulate it. I've had the same problem with some of my AK's. I wouldn't worry about it.
We all know for the ATF to allow the importation of an AK, the 3rd hole, & more importantly, the full auto sear is not allowed to be in the gun. But that part is also called the SAFETY SEAR, & it doesn't allow the hammer to drop until the bolt & carrier are fully forward. But since this part does allow full auto operation, it's not allowed on any AK imported into the US. So that part would prevent bump firing, but can't be installed on any gun.  GARY  N4KVE

6/6/2012 7:53:55 PM EDT
[#11]
Safety sear = Rate reducer

~WTS
6/6/2012 7:58:35 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Safety sear = Rate reducer

~WTS


Nope.
6/6/2012 11:27:14 PM EDT
[#13]
Check and see if the spring is not hooked on both sides of the rear of the trigger

6/7/2012 5:24:17 AM EDT
[#14]
I'm with the others, it's just because you're bumpfiring.



If this was a mechanical issue, the rifle would probably be doubling because the disconnector wouldn't be catching the hammer properly.


 
6/7/2012 7:48:53 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Safety sear = Rate reducer

~WTS
The safety sear/full auto sear sits on the 3rd pin which is verboten on US guns. The rate reducer sits on the trigger pin, & replaces the right hook on the trigger. Older milled AK47's had a double hook, but on later AKM's which were newer & improved, used a rate reducer & to make room for it, the right trigger hook went bye bye. If you get a complete AK parts kit from the past, you will see the rate reducer, & safety sear which are separate parts, in the same kit. Of course any parts kit that's been imported in the last 5 years, will be missing many parts.  GARY  N4KVE

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