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1/29/2012 7:44:36 AM EDT
So I've been researching for months now and have come up with three ak's that I am interested in.

1) Russian RAK AK47, (Atlantic) I believe is the same as Koraynovich Arms (east coast firearms)

Pros
-Russian made receiver
-red furniture
-g2 fire control
-all new parts

cons
-cost

2) Arsenal SGL 21-61

pros
-It's an arsenal
-known accurate
-ak74 style muzzle break
-all new parts

cons
-I don't like poly furniture
-cost

3) Wasr 10

pros
-cheap
-wood furniture

cons
-cheap
-canted sights
-finish
-cheap!
-mag wobble

I chose the RAK because this is what I think an ak should look like, the arsenal for their reputation, the wasr because sometimes I just get so fed up trying to decide! Please help me decide!
1/29/2012 8:11:05 AM EDT
[#1]
We really need a "First AK - New to AK - What AK - Buying Advice" sticky.
1/29/2012 8:17:10 AM EDT
[#2]
my apologies if I posted in the wrong section! seemed relevant to technical discussions and could not find a better sticky
1/29/2012 8:27:29 AM EDT
[#3]
Its the right spot, I just think the previous poster was mentioning this comes up a lot.

My first Ak was an Arsenal, my second a WASR. I like them both for different reasons. I think the question is why are you buying an AK?
1/29/2012 8:36:37 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
We really need a "First AK - New to AK - What AK - Buying Advice" sticky.


No need, its not your fault there is no FAQ/Sticky. But this question is asked almost 3 times a day.

As mentioned - why do you want an AK and what do you expect of it?

With the ever increasing price of the WASR, I fail to see its value. A USED Chinese or Arsenal is maybe $100 more and a far superior rifle.

Also, remember stocks are inexpensive and easy to swap, so don't get hung up on something that has a style you like (poly, rails, fancy wood) and over pay. Beware wood is easy to refinish and there are tons of poly stock kits out there.
1/29/2012 8:37:19 AM EDT
[#5]
I want an AK to accompany my ar15. While I love my AR I want an AK for a few reasons. 1, reliabilty  2,heavier round  3,it's the bad guys gun and have wanted one since I was a child 4,with the way the BATF is I want one now while I still can!
1/29/2012 8:45:23 AM EDT
[#6]
The RAK and Arsenal are basically the same gun with just cosmetic differences.  If you like the look of the RAK better and are willing to spend the extra $150 for it, then that's what you should buy.

The WASR will probably be just fine from a function standpoint, but it sounds like it's not really what you want.  There's no reason to buy something you don't really like.
1/29/2012 8:47:30 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
The RAK and Arsenal are basically the same gun with just cosmetic differences.  If you like the look of the RAK better and are willing to spend the extra $150 for it, then that's what you should buy.

The WASR will probably be just fine from a function standpoint, but it sounds like it's not really what you want.  There's no reason to buy something you don't really like.


They are both SAIGA conversions correct?
1/29/2012 8:51:30 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The RAK and Arsenal are basically the same gun with just cosmetic differences.  If you like the look of the RAK better and are willing to spend the extra $150 for it, then that's what you should buy.

The WASR will probably be just fine from a function standpoint, but it sounds like it's not really what you want.  There's no reason to buy something you don't really like.


They are both SAIGA conversions correct?

yes
1/29/2012 11:04:49 AM EDT
[#9]
okay so I've looked at several videos and walkthroughs on converting a Saiga but no one mentions how to replace the handgouards? I figure for about $400 less I could do the conversion and achieve the same look plus have bragging rights of actually doing the conversion!
1/29/2012 11:20:33 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
okay so I've looked at several videos and walkthroughs on converting a Saiga but no one mentions how to replace the handgouards? I figure for about $400 less I could do the conversion and achieve the same look plus have bragging rights of actually doing the conversion!

The easiest way to put AK hanguards on a Saiga, is using a bolt-on retainer from Dinzagarms.  The Saiga gas tube can be replaced with a standard AK one.
1/29/2012 11:23:36 AM EDT
[#11]
thanks
1/29/2012 12:03:43 PM EDT
[#12]
I found an article on how to replace the handguard and FSB and now I understand why the RAK is so expensive. The conversion to a pistol grip is fairly straightforward and I think would be relatively easy but re fitting a new gas block and FSB is something I would not be comfortable doing. As far as the bolt on retainer goes I don't think I would be comfortable with that methods durability.  Also the barrels on the Saiga are not threaded requiring a smith to do properly.  All this work is done and looks clean on the RAK.  I think I've finally decided to go with this gun.
1/29/2012 12:22:47 PM EDT
[#13]
iam  in the spot as original poster ,but I just started researching. what is the difference between the a k47 & the ak 74?I rally like that russian one with the red wood as well .but i would also like an accurate one .well as accurate as they can get anyways
1/29/2012 12:24:44 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
iam  in the spot as original poster ,but I just started researching. what is the difference between the a k47 & the ak 74?I rally like that russian one with the red wood as well .but i would also like an accurate one .well as accurate as they can get anyways

AK47 shoots 762x39, AK74 shoots 545x39

If you want better accuracy, go with the AK74.
1/29/2012 3:47:20 PM EDT
[#15]
ok thank you!
2/1/2012 6:00:24 PM EDT
[#16]
Just filed taxes tonight and was pleasntly surprised! Will be calling Atlantic tommorow and placing my order
2/3/2012 3:56:59 PM EDT
[#17]
Atlantic was out of stock so I looked around a little more and found the exact gun at Arms of America.  Mike hooked me up with a free shipping discount ($32)for mentioning AR15.com, Thanks Mike
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