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3/29/2011 11:12:58 PM EDT
If you use this to refinish an AK does it need to be baked on or should I just use a heat gun?
3/30/2011 2:57:28 AM EDT
[#1]
I would say you would need to bake it.

You would be better off using DuraCoat....

3/30/2011 4:32:00 AM EDT
[#2]
Read what it says on the can. A heat gun WILL NOT work, but you may not gain much from baking, either. Not all paints do.

The best thing you can do is good prep work, thorough degreasing, remove your rear sight (don't do half-assed work), tape it up well, and all a LONG time to dry and cure before reassembly.
3/30/2011 4:54:11 AM EDT
[#3]
If you're trying to get a semi-durable finish, you'll have to bake it.
If you're looking for a really durable finish, try something else.
3/30/2011 5:41:37 AM EDT
[#4]
As "Chris" said. Read the directions on the product and follow them. Don't try to "bake" paints that are not designed to be baked. It won't help and it may ruin the final finish. Also, remember that 99% of a good paint job is preparation. Make sure you degrease and properly prepare the subsurface.

FWIW- I have painted several AKs with Hi-Temp BBQ-paint and I have been very satisfied with the results. It will wear on the sharp edges and the rub points but I think it gives an AK that third world, utilitary look
3/30/2011 8:22:32 AM EDT
[#5]
Do you know if it will hold up to brake cleaner?
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As "Chris" said. Read the directions on the product and follow them. Don't try to "bake" paints that are not designed to be baked. It won't help and it may ruin the final finish. Also, remember that 99% of a good paint job is preparation. Make sure you degrease and properly prepare the subsurface.

FWIW- I have painted several AKs with Hi-Temp BBQ-paint and I have been very satisfied with the results. It will wear on the sharp edges and the rub points but I think it gives an AK that third world, utilitary look


3/30/2011 8:40:17 AM EDT
[#6]
I always use Brownell's Alumahyde II in the aerosol cans. Holds up very well even to harsh solvents.
3/30/2011 8:54:02 AM EDT
[#7]




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I always use Brownell's Alumahyde II in the aerosol cans. Holds up very well even to harsh solvents.


Good stuff.  I have had very good results with it as well.

3/30/2011 1:55:23 PM EDT
[#8]
I've used engine enamel on my TGI-74 to great success.

I applied, then hit it with a heat gun to cure.

It's held up to all kinds of abuse.


3/30/2011 10:28:41 PM EDT
[#9]
Thanks for posting the pic it looks great,do you know if it holds up to brake cleaner/gun scrubber? Is that a semi-gloss black?
Quoted:
I've used engine enamel on my TGI-74 to great success.

I applied, then hit it with a heat gun to cure.

It's held up to all kinds of abuse.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6510/img1318ci.jpg


3/31/2011 4:02:58 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Do you know if it will hold up to brake cleaner?
Quoted:
As "Chris" said. Read the directions on the product and follow them. Don't try to "bake" paints that are not designed to be baked. It won't help and it may ruin the final finish. Also, remember that 99% of a good paint job is preparation. Make sure you degrease and properly prepare the subsurface.

FWIW- I have painted several AKs with Hi-Temp BBQ-paint and I have been very satisfied with the results. It will wear on the sharp edges and the rub points but I think it gives an AK that third world, utilitary look




Sorry, I cannot answer that. I do not use brake cleaner on my guns. I typically use hot water+Balistol and/or Rem-Oil & CLP. You know...gun cleaners . No problems with those.

Also, a +1,000,000 on the Alumahyde products from Brownell's. This will stand up to harsh solvents. I have used Alumahyde on my daily carry gun (a 9x18 Makarov) and after years of carry it still looks good. You do have to let this product air-cure for a solid two weeks before you put everything back together.

3/31/2011 5:56:16 AM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:


I would say you would need to bake it.



You would be better off using DuraCoat....



I would go the Duracoat route too.





 
3/31/2011 6:07:38 AM EDT
[#12]
I used this tractor paint they sell at farm stores to paint my AK-74. It was expensive compared to Krylon or Rustoleum. I think the brand name is "Van Sickle".

It took forever to dry, smelled kind of funny, and is VERY tough.
3/31/2011 6:16:06 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Thanks for posting the pic it looks great,do you know if it holds up to brake cleaner/gun scrubber? Is that a semi-gloss black?
Quoted:
I've used engine enamel on my TGI-74 to great success.

I applied, then hit it with a heat gun to cure.

It's held up to all kinds of abuse.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6510/img1318ci.jpg




Brake cleaner will take anything off.

With that said, I have thousands of 7n6 through it, with equal amounts of cleanings to deal with the corrosive nature. Water + Hoppes No. 9 and no issues to date.
3/31/2011 7:50:47 AM EDT
[#14]
Brake cleaner is the same thing as Gun Scrubber and that is a gun cleaner...
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Quoted:
Do you know if it will hold up to brake cleaner?
Quoted:
As "Chris" said. Read the directions on the product and follow them. Don't try to "bake" paints that are not designed to be baked. It won't help and it may ruin the final finish. Also, remember that 99% of a good paint job is preparation. Make sure you degrease and properly prepare the subsurface.

FWIW- I have painted several AKs with Hi-Temp BBQ-paint and I have been very satisfied with the results. It will wear on the sharp edges and the rub points but I think it gives an AK that third world, utilitary look




Sorry, I cannot answer that. I do not use brake cleaner on my guns. I typically use hot water+Balistol and/or Rem-Oil & CLP. You know...gun cleaners . No problems with those.

Also, a +1,000,000 on the Alumahyde products from Brownell's. This will stand up to harsh solvents. I have used Alumahyde on my daily carry gun (a 9x18 Makarov) and after years of carry it still looks good. You do have to let this product air-cure for a solid two weeks before you put everything back together.



3/31/2011 7:58:14 AM EDT
[#15]
Actually brake cleaner will not take anything off,I've used it on an Arsenal SAM-7 and aTGI AMD with no problems.
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Quoted:
Thanks for posting the pic it looks great,do you know if it holds up to brake cleaner/gun scrubber? Is that a semi-gloss black?
Quoted:
I've used engine enamel on my TGI-74 to great success.

I applied, then hit it with a heat gun to cure.

It's held up to all kinds of abuse.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6510/img1318ci.jpg




Brake cleaner will take anything off.

With that said, I have thousands of 7n6 through it, with equal amounts of cleanings to deal with the corrosive nature. Water + Hoppes No. 9 and no issues to date.


3/31/2011 8:47:43 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Actually brake cleaner will not take anything off,I've used it on an Arsenal SAM-7 and aTGI AMD with no problems.
Quoted:
Quoted:
Thanks for posting the pic it looks great,do you know if it holds up to brake cleaner/gun scrubber? Is that a semi-gloss black?
Quoted:
I've used engine enamel on my TGI-74 to great success.

I applied, then hit it with a heat gun to cure.

It's held up to all kinds of abuse.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6510/img1318ci.jpg




Brake cleaner will take anything off.

With that said, I have thousands of 7n6 through it, with equal amounts of cleanings to deal with the corrosive nature. Water + Hoppes No. 9 and no issues to date.




I had it eat the park off a WASR.

And the rubber gloves I used.

wonder if there is different grades of brake cleaner.
3/31/2011 9:09:46 AM EDT
[#17]
Doubt it....I think its the fact that all finishes are not created equal. I beginning to think that the baked on resin type finishes are the ones that hold up to Gun Scrubber/Brake Cleaner and the paint type will not.
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Quoted:
Actually brake cleaner will not take anything off,I've used it on an Arsenal SAM-7 and aTGI AMD with no problems.
Quoted:
Quoted:
Thanks for posting the pic it looks great,do you know if it holds up to brake cleaner/gun scrubber? Is that a semi-gloss black?
Quoted:
I've used engine enamel on my TGI-74 to great success.

I applied, then hit it with a heat gun to cure.

It's held up to all kinds of abuse.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6510/img1318ci.jpg




Brake cleaner will take anything off.

With that said, I have thousands of 7n6 through it, with equal amounts of cleanings to deal with the corrosive nature. Water + Hoppes No. 9 and no issues to date.




I had it eat the park off a WASR.

And the rubber gloves I used.

wonder if there is different grades of brake cleaner.


3/31/2011 9:22:33 AM EDT
[#18]
Heat the metal up with a torch first then spray it then hit it with a heat gun to dry it. Works pretty good, I do prefer AH2 though but Duplicolor 500 degree isn't bad.
3/31/2011 6:15:53 PM EDT
[#19]
Engine paint has to stand up to a hot engine and hot fuel and oil. It works fine on an AK - use Dupli-Color Engine Enamel with Ceramic, 'Low-Gloss Black'. Let it cure 24 hours in a warm dry place, then you can cook it at 250 for an indefinite period (as long as you want). Here's what it looks like on this gas tube. Notice how close it matches the factory Hungarian finish on the vented steel fore arm.
4/8/2011 9:27:20 PM EDT
[#20]
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Engine paint has to stand up to a hot engine and hot fuel and oil. It works fine on an AK - use Dupli-Color Engine Enamel with Ceramic, 'Low-Gloss Black'. Let it cure 24 hours in a warm dry place, then you can cook it at 250 for an indefinite period (as long as you want). Here's what it looks like on this gas tube. Notice how close it matches the factory Hungarian finish on the vented steel fore arm.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb27/INLAND44/Guns/Bultube1.jpg


I painted my Romak MKII with this and will be using it again,looks nice and has held up to my normal cleaning routine
4/9/2011 10:44:46 AM EDT
[#21]
Engine block paint worked well for me.  It did not melt or flake off when I used CLP or Bore scrubber on the gun.  When I tried to repaint with a different finish, brake cleaner did not take anything off, I had to sand blast it off with aluminum oxide.

I baked mine in the oven at 300 degrees for 1 hour.

Here are some pictures of them:


4/10/2011 10:50:43 AM EDT
[#22]
Thanks for the info and pics. Looks great.
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Engine block paint worked well for me.  It did not melt or flake off when I used CLP or Bore scrubber on the gun.  When I tried to repaint with a different finish, brake cleaner did not take anything off, I had to sand blast it off with aluminum oxide.

I baked mine in the oven at 300 degrees for 1 hour.

Here are some pictures of them:
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae87/benelliwang/CIMG8511.jpg
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae87/benelliwang/Black1.jpg
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae87/benelliwang/CIMG8603.jpg


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