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Posted: 1/26/2011 8:38:33 AM EDT
| Just got a bag of parts looks like a whole AK. Would someone tell/send me a detailed reassembly info. Thanks |
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Quoted: It's stammped USA so I doubt its a full auto. Won't know till function check. Anyone have detailed reassembly instructions pics? Assembling a machinegun is a very bad idea. It's a quick way to a mandatory 10 years in prison and a $10k fine. To make things worse, posting about your intent to assemble said machinegun from parts on the internet only increases your likelihood of finding yourself in hot water. Post pics of the parts, machinegun parts are easy enough to identify. If the receiver has a hole in it for the assembly of a machinegun, the receiver is already illegal. |
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AK's are not just put back together like a erector kit, or even as easy as an AR. The trunions are riveted into the receiver (if your receiver is in one piece and not cut up to make it a parts kit). I've never built one but you need some specialized equipment from what I've heard about the process. You should post pic sof what you have and I would say if it's kosher (meaning a legal parts kit) I'd send it to a reputable builder for them to assemble.
ETA if you want email me your pics and I'll post them for you. |
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A close friend of mine passed away and amid the entire collection owned 18 class III weapons and I helped his daughter get connected with a class III to help settle the estate, transfer the class III arms and/or sell off the ones they did not want to keep. But when the gun vault (a small bedroom sized vault built into the house) was inventoried it came up with 19 full auto weapons, not 18. A quick look at the undocumented AK indicated that it was made post 1986, that and the lack of documentation led to the receiver being cut up ASAP. Turns out he had agreed to store it for someone going back for another tour in the sand box - who apparently never bothered to tell him it was full auto, not legally registered, or eligible to be registered.
So...I'd be real careful of any bag of parts AK I had in my posession. Assembled or not, just having the parts with which to assemble a FA AK could be construed as "constructive intent". |
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Quoted: So...I'd be real careful of any bag of parts AK I had in my posession. Assembled or not, just having the parts with which to assemble a FA AK could be construed as "constructive intent". He's not concerned with compliance with the laws, so let's just let it run its course. |
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FAC, I'm not worried about being in violation of the law, because I'm not. So don't make any more parinoid comments even though you may just be looking out for my best interest. If that's the case , Thanks. If it's a not, be smart for someone else.
I've got the pics if someone can tell me how to post them. |
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Look up at the top of the computer screen next to your login name. You should see what looks like a small envelope that should be yellow with a little (!) symbol in it.
ETA: IM = Instant message, this is the sites message system. Open the message and you should have my email. attatch the photos to the email and I'll load them onto my photobucket and post tthem for you. |
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Amazing! Took me forever to figure out what I was looking for. They should be on there way. Thanks. Got it, I'm loading the first one. It'l take a couple minutes. See my reply email about the other pic we need to see. Here's the pics: 
The markings on the bottom of the receiver say: MOD: NDS-1P Cal: 7.62x39 NODAK SPUD LLC. EDNA MN. USA |
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The receiver is a semi-auto receiver. The parts are military surplus, including the full-auto trigger assembly. You will need to buy a semi-auto trigger like a Tapco G2 to complete the build. You will need the proper fixtures and jigs to press the rivets and drill the holes for the trunion, press the barrel into the trunion, or you can wing it with the tools you have. You also need to press the rivets for the trigger guard. You'll have to buy rivets too. |
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Yeah, you have a nice Polish kit there.
But there's a lot of work required to "put it together". You don't need to reassemble that rifle...it needs to be remanufactured. A whole different world. Your best bet it to send it to a smith to have it done. Probably ~$300 worth of work. You'll get a nice rifle out of it, though. You'll also need a few 922r compliance parts, but the smith you send it to to have it built can guide you there. |
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So to understand this corectly and it all is starting to make scense. This is a rifle kit gun. Never has been built into a working rifle before. This would explain why the chamber and gas pistol are still brand new bright chrome like they never have been fired.
Got it. Thank you guys for all the help. I'm going to give it back tot he person that gave it to me and let them know they got a kit gun and need an AK smith to finish it's assembly. Job well done! thanks, and thank you very much Preemtive Strike for your assistance and posting the pics for all to see. 3TOGO over and out. |
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It's stammped USA so I doubt its a full auto. Won't know till function check. Anyone have detailed reassembly instructions pics? Assembling a machinegun is a very bad idea. It's a quick way to a mandatory 10 years in prison and a $10k fine. To make things worse, posting about your intent to assemble said machinegun from parts on the internet only increases your likelihood of finding yourself in hot water. Post pics of the parts, machinegun parts are easy enough to identify. If the receiver has a hole in it for the assembly of a machinegun, the receiver is already illegal. call off the dogs! it's just a really nice parts kit. LOL brows the tacked threads to get an idea of what is envolved w/ a kit build. |
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OMG there's the big bad scary kit.
U gots some f/a trigger components in there too but don't worry they're perfectly legal. In fact I'm pretty sure u can still use them in the build (trigger, disconnector, and hammer and spring) so long as you got enough 922r to comply of course. Well that's if you were to keep your kit. |
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The receiver is a semi-auto receiver. The parts are military surplus, including the full-auto trigger assembly. You will need to buy a semi-auto trigger like a Tapco G2 to complete the build. You will need the proper fixtures and jigs to press the rivets and drill the holes for the trunion, press the barrel into the trunion, or you can wing it with the tools you have. You also need to press the rivets for the trigger guard. You'll have to buy rivets too. He would likely want to replace the trigger group as he will need the US content, but not because it is a full auto trigger group. Unlike in the AR15 world full auto trigger stuff is just fine on an AK, so long as you don't have an auto sear or pin for the auto sear. It sounds strange to a person familiar with the legalities of an AR, but that is how it is. |
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Assembled or not, just having the parts with which to assemble a FA AK could be construed as "constructive intent". "Constructive intent" has never been applied to FA AK parts. Possession of an AK receiver that will accept the axis pin for the auto/safety sear is unlawful. Possession of the selector, carrier, hammer, disconnector, auto/safety sear and spring has NOT been declared to be possession of a "machine gun" |
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I Quoted:
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Assembled or not, just having the parts with which to assemble a FA AK could be construed as "constructive intent". "Constructive intent" has never been applied to FA AK parts. Possession of an AK receiver that will accept the axis pin for the auto/safety sear is unlawful. Possession of the selector, carrier, hammer, disconnector, auto/safety sear and spring has NOT been declared to be possession of a "machine gun" I agree...read what I said and more importantly when it was said....before anyone had established whether he had an FA receiver or not. |
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read what I said I did. Frankly, I'm hard pressed to believe that someone familiar with NFA weapons ended up with a F/A weapon and didn't know it ... unless he went blind before he agreed to store it. In any case, a bag o' parts without a receiver isn't a "machine gun "and given that the number of parts kits guns on approved semi auto receivers exceeds the number of illegal FA AKs in the country by a factor of 500,000 to 1 or so, jumping to the conclusion that the receiver might be unlawful seems unjustified - as events proved to be the case here. |
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