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Posted: 10/26/2010 3:41:21 PM EDT
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There's alot of threads on Wasr-2's with threaded non-threaded, are they good, bad,etc. threads.
My question: Of the Wasr-2's you know, or have used or seen: What percentage had threaded muzzles? I'm thinking of getting one eventually, and I don't know if it's worth getting if it has a non-threaded barrel. There are no AK gunsmiths (AR15 snobs, so don't ask  ) so it would have to be shipped off to install another FSB...
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Grant, you seem to be asking what percentage of WASR-2 carbines afford a threaded muzzle. It strikes me as a very difficult question to answer and somewhat beside the point if I understand the thrust of your query. Who the hell knows? I'd doubt the suggestion that Cuiger managers would be able to tell us, those alcoholic bastards.
Are you saying you'd buy one if it featured a threaded muzzle so you might spin on an aftermarket brake? Are you saying you'd buy one in order to have it retrofitted w/ a proper milsurp front sight base and brake combo? If you ask me, I'd opine a WASR-2 or an Intrac-2 are great coz they don't have a brake. That gear is really only useful when fitted to a select-fire carbine. Does this sound like you? Unfortunately, WASR-2s have a variety of teething problems not associated with what happens to be - or not be - on their muzzle. Intracs, OTOH, are perfect right-out-of-the-box. Not trying to rain on your parade, really  . Here's hoping you acquire the perfect rifle for you.
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Ah sorry ;)
Wasn't real clear was I......I do that alot. What I was meaning was: I am wondering what the odds are of a Wasr-2's muzzle being threaded or non-threaded? From what I understand, most SAR-2's, Intrac MK II's and Cugir-2's all came with muzzle nuts as well. I am wanting the threaded barrel for a flash hider. From what I've heard, the 5.45 is so light recoil a brake/compensator aren't needed. If I ended up getting a Wasr-2 with a non-threaded muzzle, installing a threaded front sight base might well equal a higher quality rifle. I completely agree Wasr-2's can have problems, probably moreso than Wasr10's. However I figured I could get a decent one by examining it in person, or buying one of the older pre-wasr models. |
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Quoted: Ah sorry ;) Wasn't real clear was I......I do that alot. Yeah you might want to work on that.... What I was meaning was: I am wondering what the odds are of a Wasr-2's muzzle being threaded or non-threaded? From what I understand, most SAR-2's, Intrac MK II's and Cugir-2's all came with muzzle nuts as well. I am wanting the threaded barrel for a flash hider. From what I've heard, the 5.45 is so light recoil a brake/compensator aren't needed. If I ended up getting a Wasr-2 with a non-threaded muzzle, installing a threaded front sight base might well equal a higher quality rifle. I completely agree Wasr-2's can have problems, probably moreso than Wasr10's. However I figured I could get a decent one by examining it in person, or buying one of the older pre-wasr models. You won't know if it's threaded till you try to take it off. If it is threaded expect the threads to be a bit on the faint side. you can get an oversided slant break from one of the dealers out there and put that on if you want, a member here did it. You'll have to look for that thread though as I don't feel like digging for it at the moment. and no, it isn't needed it's like a 5.56 as far as recoil goes. |
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I'm going to say that 99.999% of WASR 2s are not threaded.
It is a barrel made for the 5.45x39 bullet. These caliber rifles take an ak 74 brake if they take any muzzle device. The cugir factory worker would have probably been pretty drunk if they threaded a 5.45 barrel. The threads for 5.45's go on teh FSB and not the barrel. |
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I think a "flash-hider" would be the most useful device to mount on a WASR-2 or -3. Good choice.
I've not noticed any SAR-2s or -3s that were offered for sale with muzzle nuts BTW tho I'm not suggesting some did - or do - come that way. INTRAC-2s definitely did have the nuts welded over plain (unthreaded) muzzles. Some comrades reported 1x14mm threads on their WASR-2s. Those had to have been protected by muzzle nuts held in place by the standard bushing lock plunger and a spot weld. Perhaps that's the key. Grant, should you locate a WASR-2 w/ said plunger which under finger pressure goes in 'n out of the front sight base you might just have found yourself a weiner. Go for it. I was thinking ... too. |
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The threads for 5.45's go on teh FSB and not the barrel. You don't have one or have handled one I'm guessing. They do not have ak74 FSBs but rather a standard one with a muzzle nut welded onto it. There isn't really any way to tell if it is threaded and welded on or if it is pressed and welded until you cut through the weld and check and see. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I think a "flash-hider" would be the most useful device to mount on a WASR-2 or -3. Good choice. I've not noticed any SAR-2s or -3s that were offered for sale with muzzle nuts BTW tho I'm not suggesting some did - or do - come that way. INTRAC-2s definitely did have the nuts welded over plain (unthreaded) muzzles. Some comrades reported 1x14mm threads on their WASR-2s. Those had to have been protected by muzzle nuts held in place by the standard bushing lock plunger and a spot weld. Perhaps that's the key. Grant, should you locate a WASR-2 w/ said plunger which under finger pressure goes in 'n out of the front sight base you might just have found yourself a weiner. Go for it. I was thinking ... too. That's it, a few people have founded threads under the nuts. I guess like you said, in-person you might be able to tell. Maybe not. Anyway, thanks for the responses! I am still a long ways away from pruchasing a 5.45, but this gives me some more options to look at ;) |
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