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Posted: 6/13/2010 5:47:17 AM EDT
| Does anyone know how to stop this? I'm assuming I'll have to tweak the trigger, but thats fine. I have this trigger in 2 of my AKs, and it does it every now and then on both. |
| For a while Tapco was over drilling the depth of the spring hole in the disconnector which could cause this as the diconnected does not have enough spring tension to grab the hammer. Compare the hole dept to the orignal FCG if you have it. I got one of these bad sets last year and made a little spacer to make up the difference. Works great. |
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Do you have an NDS receiver? IIRC there's a problem using G2's with one of their receivers (NDS 3?) if that's the problem see their website.
iI that's not the problem, and you're not unintentionally bumpfiring, you'll have to fit the hammer or disconnector. See gunplumber's website (Arizona Response Systems) before attempting this. |
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Properly install them or you can end up in club Fed. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How does a person not install one properly? What should we be looking for to insure a proper installation? ... looking for specifics here. People have been known to leave out the disconnector spring. People have installed the hammer backwards. In either case, hammer follow is not intermitent. |
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Hide your dog.
Seriously: Check and make sure you don't have the defective disconnector in which they drilled the hole too deep for the spring. If you contact Tapco they will have you send in your disconnectors and they will send out new ones to you with the correct depth. |
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for the record, I know how to install these properly. I have built 2 AKs, so its nothing new.
I got these triggers when they first came out, and they sat in my safe for a while before I put them in, and because of my military service, I never got to shoot them that much. I just came back from deployment and started shooting them regularly and noticed this. I'll check out the overdrilling thing. Might be the issue since these were the first run of them. Thanks for the input guys(for the most of you) |
Sounds like bump-firing made easy to me . However, it's a dangerous situation from a safety standpoint and it's completely true that you can get busted for it if the wrong person observes automatic fire. It has happened; not frequently, but you can't ignore the possibility. Tapco will probably send you two new FCGs for those defective ones.
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I'll check out the overdrilling thing. Might be the issue since these were the first run of them. The problem with the disconnector spring hole occurred years after TAPCO bought the rights to the G2 design. If your fcgs really are "...first run..." that's not the problem. |
| I don't bump fire at all. It just happens by squeezing the trigger normally. It doesn't happen all the time, just sporadically. I think I may not be pulling the trigger back hard enough or something and its feathering the FCG. It happened again when my brother shot it, then again when a friend shot it. I'm tempted to take it out and just put the stock one back in, but its nice not having trigger slap. I'll call tapco and see what they say. |
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Did I miss your answer to the question of what type AK they are installed in? Nodakspud NDS-3 receiver? Romanian factory? Any answer?
You asked for help, people are giving it and they get attitude in return. Many things can cause it. Improperly installed shepards hook, one of the hammer spring's leg not correctly over the trigger on both sides. The issue with the NDS receivers. |
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One is on an original romanian receiver, another is on a Vulcan receiver that I hardened all of the rails and pin holes on. The pins fit tight, and I can't really seem to see any error installation. I've tripled checked stuff. On the one w/ the Vulcan receiver, it has the shepards hook, and on the romanian, there is that pin retention plate that takes place of the shepards hook, and its the old cresent style one and not the new one. Sorry if I've come off as rude, but I just get aggravated when people say stuff that makes me seem incompetant.
As far as this unintentional bumpfire, could that be caused by not pulling back all the way on the trigger unknowingly? |
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Sorry if I've come off as rude, but I just get aggravated when people say stuff that makes me seem incompetant. Perhaps the FIRST thing you should learn about posting questions on a board is that no one has any idea of your level of competence or incompetence. As a result you get some answers which are appropriate to a newb. But then, perhaps you aren't quite as old a hand as you seem to think, if you're not aware that it's possible to unintentionally fire an AK more than once. 
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| I'm not really a newb per se , I was a member here on another screen name before I got rid of that internet provider and thus the email went with it. I've been on the boards of a long time. I was a longtime member of the ak47.net boards too, for a longer period of time, I think with this screen name. But, I was overseas and decided to rejoin this board, and thus I look like a newbie, and I know nobody else knows my story, so I guess I gotta take what comes with it. |
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What ammo are you shooting? I had a similar problem with my MAK 90, shooting Federal American Eagle. That is the only time I have had any slam fire issues. It happened when multiple people shot my rifle. I think the ammo had soft primers. That can happen too. I seem to remember something about 'soft' primers on that ammo. |
| I know this isn't the case for your newly installed FCG, but I had a properly installed tapco G2 (I know b/c it was factory and I shot more than 12K rounds through it) before it started to double and even quadruple shots on a trigger pull. Swapped out for a new FCG, and all is fine again. |
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I only shoot wolf out of mine, and they are known for hard primers in the reloading world. Would tapco send me another disconnector if this is the issue? Again, its not an everyday thing, its just really annoying when you're shooting and you have a double tap. Why don't you ask TAPCO about the problem in their Industry forum? |
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Check and make sure you don't have the defective disconnector in which they drilled the hole too deep for the spring. I was going to suggest checking the disconnector spring itself. I had one break in my VEPR K and the thing was bump-firing like mad. A too-deep spring hole could do the same thing. |
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