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Posted: 5/20/2010 2:01:34 PM EDT
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What is going on with the prices of those AK's.. I'm seeing about 2,200 now they used to be about 1,200 a few months ago.!
I'm looking for a preban AK (yes I live in a ban state) So norinco is another option I have but does anybody else have any suggestions? I'm really looking for a underfolder in x39 flavor but I won't object to a nice fixed woodstocked one. |
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The $2k ones are probably Legends, they are highly sought after and therefore bring a lot more money.
Underfolders also bring more money due to cool factor. Fixed stock Norincos routinely pop up on the EE for about $1,000. If you are getting prices off of Gunbroker, that is your first mistake..haha Everythings overpriced on that site. |
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One word... Gunbroker.
I realize that generally prices are all relative to where you live. For me I rarely see anything on Gunbroker that isn't way over inflated. The problem is that Gunbroker doesn't follow local cost of living and average wages. It is a national site and some of the most expensive places to live in the country also happen to be ban states. I mean when the average rent is $3000 - $4000 (just guessing here) a month and a house costs 5 times the national average then spending more on a rifle doesn't seem so bad, especially when your options are limited. I have friends in different places around the country, like NYC, San Diego, etc. They've told me that to own my property would cost over $1,000,000 in their areas, which is outrageous by my standards. So basically it's just all relative. Due to the national exposure, Gunbroker will often bring more from those people than a similar item would in my area. Unfortunately, a lot of sellers, even in my area, look at Gunbroker to set their prices without regard for what I was just explaining. If he can't sell it here, he can always list it on Gunbroker. In the end it is driving prices up everywhere. Simple supply and demand on a national scale. |
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If your not set on an underfolder, I believe there is a member who lives in NY and has great success with his converted saigas. Maybe he will chime in. Or you can leave NY........ 
If your talking about gunwolf he is a great guy and very knowledgeable in the AK platform... |
Here is a link to a nice Norinco I was going to buy but my GUN FUND is too low right now.
Norinco 56S |
Polytech prices now? Did you hear the president of Mexico saying that the US needs another assault weapons ban? All of the voilence supposedly is the blame of 'assault weapons' availability. It has nothing to do with criminals or drugs coming from Mexico....  For all we know, $2000 might look like a bargain in the future. As always, prices may fall slowly .... and they may rise quickly.
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The old "Blue Book" is a joke to set pricing at. Gunbroker gives people "real time" value of firearms. There are a lot of overpriced guns people have listed but most of those don't sell anyway.
You can do a search on "completed auctions" to get a general idea as to what the current value of your firearms is. |
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The old "Blue Book" is a joke to set pricing at. Gunbroker gives people "real time" value of firearms. There are a lot of overpriced guns people have listed but most of those don't sell anyway. You can do a search on "completed auctions" to get a general idea as to what the current value of your firearms is. This is true, But, like I described earlier, those prices are often only valid if you were to sell on Gunbroker since they are elevated by the national exposure, and people that live in higher income/cost of living areas. A $100,000 a year income in some areas of the country is great and provides a fairly high standard of living, whereas in some areas it isn't so great and it can be hard to get by. Some item's prices are set by local economic condtions, but when you sell in the national marketplace you are reaching those that the higher prices don't seem so high compared to theri income and general expense level. $2000 for a pre-ban Ak may not seem so bad for a guy living in NYC or San Diego but for a guy in rural Mississippi it may be a fortune. Even if the guy in NY lives in a 1000 sq ft high rise apartment and the guy in MS has a 4000 sq ft home on 40 acres. |
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as stated gunbroker leaves a bit to be desired. i like to use auction arms. it doesn't have as many listings, but prices also dont seem to be as inflated. i have only bought 2 things off auction arms, and both times, i was extremely happy with the price the auction ended at |
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This is true, But, like I described earlier, those prices are often only valid if you were to sell on Gunbroker since they are elevated by the national exposure, and people that live in higher income/cost of living areas. A $100,000 a year income in some areas of the country is great and provides a fairly high standard of living, whereas in some areas it isn't so great and it can be hard to get by.
Some item's prices are set by local economic condtions, but when you sell in the national marketplace you are reaching those that the higher prices don't seem so high compared to theri income and general expense level. $2000 for a pre-ban Ak may not seem so bad for a guy living in NYC or San Diego but for a guy in rural Mississippi it may be a fortune. Even if the guy in NY lives in a 1000 sq ft high rise apartment and the guy in MS has a 4000 sq ft home on 40 acres. I agree, buy based on Gunbroker selling prices, not listed prices and you will do fine. |
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I agree, buy based on Gunbroker selling prices, not listed prices and you will do fine. Well, I actually meant that the selling prices on Gunbroker are too high, due to the people in certain income brackets paying too much for them compared to what I can find them locally. Maybe not for you, where you live, but for me it is. This of course is changing and driving prices up everywhere for the reasons I describe. I've watched this trend in many different areas of my firearms interest. Now instead of judging what the local market it, more and more sellers are basing thier prices on what they see on Gunbroker. It works for some, but there is no way that a guy in rural south Mississippi can expect to get the same prices as someone selling the same thing in L.A. Think about real estate. It isn't mobile so it sells locally according to the local market conditions. If you could take it with you people would just go to MS, or Montana, buy land cheap and move it to CA. No one would go to LA and pay LA prices for a 1/8 acre lot and move it to MS. 
The last few firearms purchases I've made have been considerably less than what they were generally selling for on Gunbroker. This of course will vary depending on where you live and shop. If you live in a higher income/cost of living area then the selling prices on gunbroker may be in line with what you see locally. Prices are always set by the market. Local markets vary and therefore prices vary depending on where you are. When you go on a large, national level marketplace, the prices are going to be skewed towards the higher end of the individual markets. The people living is high income/cost regions may benefit from it because the supply for them goes up. This increase in supply may actually give them lower prices than they would otherwise have if restricted only to a local market. But for people living in lower income/cost regions the cost is skewed upward due to the number of "rich" guys that are bidding against them. In their local market there may not be any "rich" guys, so the sellers are willing to sell for less to sell stay within the means of his local market. Otherwise no one would be selling on GB, they'd just sell locally. The sellers are going for where than can get the most, and that is in the national marketplace with it's larger exposure to more people with the means to pay inflated prices. This is all very basic economics. Whatever the case, I haven't seen anything on GB that I couldn't get in my area for a good bit cheaper if patient enough to find it. I very seldom buy anything on impulse, instead just keeping my eye open for deals in many different areas of interest. I typically only buy when I find a deal, but I'll admit that sometimes I will pay more than I should because I want something badly enough. Just not GB bad. |
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