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11/19/2009 7:50:57 AM EDT
Last trip to the range I had three separate incidences of two rounds being fired with a single trigger pull. I fired a total of approx. 60 rounds before I decided I better quit before I gave the range master an anxiety attack. ( It was right before the firearm deer season and the line was packed with the usual one box a year shooters- figured he enough on his mind without me adding to his worries.


Rifle: Romanian SAR-2 (approx. 3000 rnds run through her)

G2 trigger (probably less than 500 rnds with this trigger)

Ammo: 5.45x39 Wolf 60gr FMJ "the newer" non-lacquered case.

Rifle was relatively clean, but certainly not squeaky clean. I've never had any function problems of any kind before, ever.

I took it home and cleaned the rifle well, giving special attention to the firing pin and channel.

Anything else to look for? Could something else be causing this? Maybe some softer than usual primers?
11/19/2009 8:05:09 AM EDT
[#1]
Only thing I can think of is a weak disconnecter springs or a really dirty firing pin/channel. I haven't heard of many problems like this with 5.45 guns, just .223's.
11/19/2009 8:05:31 AM EDT
[#2]
That may have been a BUMP fire, not slap

If you dont have the rifle snug on your shoulder this can easily happen.

If you have a light finger on the trigger this can easily happen.

Worst Case:  possible issues w/ your FCG or disconnector spring.  If you dont have a Tapco G2 in there now, i would replace it with one.
11/19/2009 8:14:47 AM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:


Last trip to the range I had three separate incidences of two rounds being fired with a single trigger pull.


Turn yourself in.

Do it for your dogs.



 
11/19/2009 8:59:29 AM EDT
[#4]
Check that your hammer/trigger pin isn't walking out when you fire.  If that is the case and the original trigger group was replaced for the Tapco G2 they may have used the same Hammer Pin Retaining Spring (Shepherd's hook) that came with the original trigger and they can fail especially if you've been messing with them.  If this is the case replace the Hammer Pin Retaining Spring with something like a Krebs retaining plate and you should be good to go.  Let us know what happens.  Thanks
11/19/2009 9:59:53 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Last trip to the range I had three separate incidences of two rounds being fired with a single trigger pull.

Turn yourself in.
Do it for your dogs.
 


11/19/2009 10:10:07 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
That may have been a BUMP fire, not slap

If you dont have the rifle snug on your shoulder this can easily happen.

If you have a light finger on the trigger this can easily happen.

Worst Case:  possible issues w/ your FCG or disconnector spring.  If you dont have a Tapco G2 in there now, i would replace it with one.



Happens to me a lot when I'm sighting in.  Letting the rifle sit on a rest, barely touching the trigger... PaPow!  One shot on target, one shot off paper.
11/19/2009 10:18:53 AM EDT
[#7]
you are limp wristing it and bumpfring it off your shoulder. nothing wrong with the rifle i'd bet.
11/19/2009 11:10:38 AM EDT
[#8]
I did have a very light hold- shooting for accuracy with a new red dot.

I'll check the other suggestions, but it sounds like I was bumping it.

Thanks all.
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11/19/2009 1:48:06 PM EDT
[#9]
What kind of trigger do you have?

Oops, it's a G2, just read it You prolly just need a little more disconnector engagement. Any competant gunsmith could do this for you in about 5 minutes.
11/19/2009 4:10:20 PM EDT
[#10]
Hold the trigger and lock the hammer back... when you slowly (very slowly) release the trigger, does it release the hammer?

11/19/2009 5:00:08 PM EDT
[#11]
google the tapco recall. some triggers got out w/ disconnector spring issues. not sure if it was the spring or if it was the area it seats in that was the problem.
11/20/2009 2:26:32 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Hold the trigger and lock the hammer back... when you slowly (very slowly) release the trigger, does it release the hammer?



Best answer here so far and I strongly suggest you try what he suggested above.

One of the reasons I returned my Tapco G-2 is that the fit on my SAR-1 was such that the disconnector wasn't holding on to the hammer long enough for the sear to catch it when letting off the trigger. This would allow the gun to double-fire occasionally with a single trigger pull (dangerous).

Anyway, I did my research and the G-2 trigger set was modeled after Bulgarian trigger groups. Romanian trigger groups are slightly different, but apparently it's enough to make a difference on some SAR's.

Look around... there are other FCG's out there (and I'm not talking about something fancy like Red Star Arms either). I tried digging through my emails to find out where I ended up getting my current FCG from (sometime back in 2005 or 2006) but to no avail. It was something "brothers."
11/20/2009 5:13:40 PM EDT
[#13]
Ok, I followed the advice above....

I held the trigger back, charged the bolt and let it fly forward (while still holding the trigger back).


I slowly let off on the trigger and the disconnector disengaged, then the single trigger hook grabbed and held the hammer.

I repeated it several times with the same results.

Good to go, right?
11/21/2009 6:54:18 AM EDT
[#14]
Also make sure your hammer isn't in backwards. Some people have installed the hammer in reversed and caused this problem. The thin ridged part of the hammer should be forward not the broad rounded side.
11/21/2009 7:23:31 AM EDT
[#15]
Replace the disconnector spring anyway.  It is a $3-6 part depending upon where you buy it.  Cheap insurance.

Another test you can do - load a mag with one round only.  Fire it and then pull the trigger again on the empty chamber.  If you hear the hammer fall, all is well.  If not, problem.

And get a solid shooting stance with that thing pulled TIGHT into your shoulder!
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