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9/10/2008 9:13:26 PM EDT
I have just purchased 2 muzzle nuts and a FSC47.  I want the FSC47 on my tantal w/o modifing the tantal. If i had a professional weld the nuts and FSC47 together perfectly, would i obtain the benefits of the FSC47  Of course, the parts would have to be aligned perfectly.

Opinions/suggestions?

thx
rube
9/11/2008 11:29:21 AM EDT
[#1]
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dpharms.com/2-inch-barrel-extention-p-36.html

I think that I would have something like this made, or get one of these and mod it to fit.

The extra length might look a little weird at first, but certainly no worse than many other brakes.

Yes, you might be able to weld the nuts to the back of the brake lengthening it enough to fit on your Tantal.  Alignment might be a problem when welding, but even I have a couple ideas on that.

As to retaining the benefits of the brake with these mods... I simply don't know.  My gut says it should work.

Why not call the maker and ask for recommendations?  Who knows, he might even be able to build you a longer one to fit the thread placement on the Tantal.

Good luck.
9/11/2008 11:41:11 AM EDT
[#2]
I'd use the FSC556.
Tantal = 5.45mm
FCS556 is made for 5.56mm

CXS
9/11/2008 12:01:55 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I'd use the FSC556.
Tantal = 5.45mm
FCS556 is made for 5.56mm

CXS


Comp is threaded 1/2x28 RH  

Tantal barrel is threaded 14x1 LH

Might make sense considering you have to build an adapter anyhow.

9/11/2008 12:34:37 PM EDT
[#4]
Ya'll kick ass!!  Thanks a lot kar98k and CXS!!  I'll just hold on to the muzzle nuts.  Now i need to make a decision on the which break ext. to use.  Damnit thats some relief!!!   thanks alot for that link too Kar98k

I have my eyes on a milled 5.45 right now too, oh yeah just got married today too
9/11/2008 1:18:20 PM EDT
[#5]

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oh yeah just got married today too


Congratulations.  

I realize that you are just unwinding a little in the middle of a stressful day, but get back to that bride.  You don't want her telling everybody how you went straight from the ceremony to ARFCOM.  

9/11/2008 6:39:21 PM EDT
[#6]

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, oh yeah just got married today too


you poor poor bastard, say good bye to all the things you thought life had in store for you and embrace your new prison, I meen partnership

Grats and may the coming years treat you and your new life path well.
9/11/2008 7:16:23 PM EDT
[#7]


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oh yeah just got married today too



Did you really? Congrats!!!!!!



Z
9/12/2008 4:32:52 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
oh yeah just got married today too



Did you really? Congrats!!!!!!



Z


Thank you gentlemen  I have been dating her for 4 years, calling her Wife for 1 year and now its official.

Mr. 545, she wants a piece of jewelry for each rifle i buy  

Tx-zen, STOP posting your rifles too!!!  Now i want a damn Saiga 12  Btw, very nice conversion.
9/12/2008 10:05:38 AM EDT
[#9]
Do you know a good machinist?

I may be possible to turn the knurling off the muzzle nut, then bore the threaded end of the brake so that the turned down nut can be pressed into the end of it.

Never done this with a muzzle brake, but used to repair machine parts with this method a lot.  With a press fit that's tight enough, it probably ain't gonna go anywhere.
9/12/2008 10:14:52 AM EDT
[#10]
Jewelry can be had cheap


Quoted:
...With a press fit that's tight enough, it probably ain't gonna go anywhere.


Just my thoughts

An interference fit works for alot of things, but there are 2 reasons why it is not the best choice for this aplication. Large dynamic of temperature and a hammering effect. At the very least I would bevel the OD/ID of the fit pieces and run a mild steel weld on the face then trun the weld down.

You could probably peen the partsafter the fit was made, could be an option also, a bit easier than the weld aproach.

9/12/2008 10:53:42 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Do you know a good machinist?

I may be possible to turn the knurling off the muzzle nut, then bore the threaded end of the brake so that the turned down nut can be pressed into the end of it.

Never done this with a muzzle brake, but used to repair machine parts with this method a lot.  With a press fit that's tight enough, it probably ain't gonna go anywhere.


I think you are missing the point of why he wants to put the nut on the end of the muzzle device.

The deal is that there is about 1.5 inch of barrel in front of the front sight base on a Tantal.  The first approx 7/8 from the muzzle is unthreaded, then the barrel slightly steps and the barrel threaded the rest of the way to the FSB.  

It makes it much easier to line up the threads while installing a muzzle device.

But it also means that a standard AK muzzle device won't work as designed as the muzzle is about 3/4 inch from where it is on a standard AK.  The part of the barrel in front of the FSB is that much longer.  It sticks right through shorter devices and others "bottom out" before they are on far enough to latch at the FSB.

The only ways around this if you want to use an aftermarket muzzle device are to cut the barrel shorter, put an extension on the muzzle device or barrel, or use a device that is designed to fit on a Tantal barrel.

It's just one of those little differences that keep us AK owners on our toes when buying accessories.  

9/12/2008 8:52:18 PM EDT
[#12]
If you get the parts, I may be able to make some time to get it all put together for you.
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