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6/2/2008 8:59:11 PM EDT
Can anyone tell me what the normal ejection distance would be.  I have an M70AB2 that ejects the cases about 5 feet. Does that sound normal?


6/2/2008 9:03:40 PM EDT
[#1]
Normal.
6/2/2008 9:26:45 PM EDT
[#2]
Normal and it should throw the brass at 2:00. Give or take.
6/3/2008 7:31:24 AM EDT
[#3]
I'm used to seeing AKs throw brass way further than 5'. 15'-20' is what I would think of as normal for a clean, well lubed rifle.

BSW
6/3/2008 12:03:27 PM EDT
[#4]
When shooting kneeling, my cases usually end up approximately 15 feet at my 2 o'clock.  They usually make 1 or 2 nice little piles if I don't shift what I am aiming at.  

5ft definitely seems a bit on the weak side...
6/3/2008 7:50:45 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks for the reply guys. I do have to admit, I own other AKs but I can't recall how far the shells ejected.  My Yugo's short distance ejection did get my attention.  It's just a concern, or I've probabably read too many negative post on the M70 lately.  My Yugo's worked perfect.  Zero jams, but only around 200 rounds through it.
6/3/2008 7:53:37 PM EDT
[#6]
My 7.62x39 rifles eject at 2 o'clock and about 10-15 feet.  Other calibers may be different.  I had one that ejected at 3 o'clock and would rain down on anyone to the right of me on the line.
6/3/2008 8:16:58 PM EDT
[#7]
My SAR 3 ejects fast and high at 3 o'clock.  At the range where I shoot it hits the shed above and lands on the person next to me.   I didn't compare my M70 to this one because it's .223.

What would cause a weak ejection?  Ammo  maybe? I was shooting Monarchs.  Any suggestions on how to clean or how to make sure the gas port is clean?


-Rick
6/3/2008 8:58:39 PM EDT
[#8]
Normal for me is 10-15 feet at 2:00.
6/4/2008 3:29:00 AM EDT
[#9]

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 Any suggestions on how to clean or how to make sure the gas port is clean?



A gas port tool works best. A pipe cleaner might work if the port is just fouled, but will probably be useless if there's corrosion in the port.
6/4/2008 4:45:37 AM EDT
[#10]
Does it have a vented gas block and a vented gas tube?  Does it have a stronger than normal recoil spring?
6/4/2008 2:47:45 PM EDT
[#11]
5 feet sounds like 10 feet too short!!
6/4/2008 4:07:38 PM EDT
[#12]
My Yugo uf is now back at century.  It started with weak ejection (about five feet) and after about 50 rounds turned into failuers to feed.  My fixed stock Yugo really flings the case.  About 15-20 feet at 2-3 O'clock.  I would suggest shoot a bunch and see if it still feeds.  Good luck.

Edit to add the uf has a vented gas tube (no vents on gas block).  The fixed has a vented gas block.
6/4/2008 4:18:51 PM EDT
[#13]
My SAR-1 ejects about 2:00-3:00, but it also seems to shoot it at a nice upwards angle so it gets some distance if the ranges braces for the roof dont block it first.  I'd say probably about 10-15 feet though.  
6/5/2008 5:59:23 AM EDT
[#14]
When I read a post on the Yugos having the mag catch milled down too much, I notice mine was short too.  It never misfed, but with the cover off, I hand cycled and saw that the round was stripped by just a tiny corner of the bolt.  To fix this I had a friend weld metal to the latch to build it up.  Now the mag sits higher and with alot less wobble.  The bolt has more bullet to grab.

Now I'm wondering if maybe the mag is up too high.  Still no misfeeds or FTE, but maybe the rounds sitting up higher are slowing down the carrier.  I guess the best thing to do for now is to shoot it  I'll fire a round without the mag in to rule that out.

As for the gas tube, I don't think it's vented.  I'm not sure about the gas block.  It has the Yugo gas block.  Are there different Yugo gas blocks?
6/5/2008 6:27:28 AM EDT
[#15]
I have not had any experience with a Yugoslavian AK with ejection of 5 feet, but I have examined a Yugo 59/66 that had failure to extract and ejection malfunctions. Those problems were caused by a corroded gas valve. You might want to investigate that possible cause.
6/5/2008 6:39:40 AM EDT
[#16]

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I have not had any experience with a Yugoslavian AK with ejection of 5 feet, but I have examined a Yugo 59/66 that had failure to extract and ejection malfunctions. Those problems were caused by a corroded gas valve. You might want to investigate that possible cause.


AKs don't have a gas valve.  Only Yugo SKSs.
6/5/2008 8:41:39 AM EDT
[#17]

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I have not had any experience with a Yugoslavian AK with ejection of 5 feet, but I have examined a Yugo 59/66 that had failure to extract and ejection malfunctions. Those problems were caused by a corroded gas valve. You might want to investigate that possible cause.


AKs don't have a gas valve.  Only Yugo SKSs.



As you can probably tell, the gentleman that I know who owns a Yugo AK is not a rifle grenade aficionado.
6/5/2008 8:57:10 AM EDT
[#18]

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I have not had any experience with a Yugoslavian AK with ejection of 5 feet, but I have examined a Yugo 59/66 that had failure to extract and ejection malfunctions. Those problems were caused by a corroded gas valve. You might want to investigate that possible cause.


AKs don't have a gas valve.  Only Yugo SKSs.


Yugo M70s do have gas valves....  
6/5/2008 8:57:50 AM EDT
[#19]
Usually 10-15 feet at 2:00.


More if I hold it Gangsta style.
6/5/2008 9:00:25 AM EDT
[#20]

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I have not had any experience with a Yugoslavian AK with ejection of 5 feet, but I have examined a Yugo 59/66 that had failure to extract and ejection malfunctions. Those problems were caused by a corroded gas valve. You might want to investigate that possible cause.


AKs don't have a gas valve.  Only Yugo SKSs.


Yugo M70s do have gas valves....  



I'm inviting my friend to shoot this weekend.
I'll raise the grenade sight, fire a cartridge and find out for myself.
6/5/2008 9:28:57 AM EDT
[#21]
I remember my PMKMS putting cases about 1 to 2 O'Clock and 10-12 ft out.  sounds about right.

However, it is nothing compared to my Russian SKS.  That thing throws them 20ft into the air (or what seems to be 20ft anyways) and 20ft forward to at most 1 O'Cock on the dial.
6/5/2008 10:18:41 AM EDT
[#22]

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I have not had any experience with a Yugoslavian AK with ejection of 5 feet, but I have examined a Yugo 59/66 that had failure to extract and ejection malfunctions. Those problems were caused by a corroded gas valve. You might want to investigate that possible cause.


AKs don't have a gas valve.  Only Yugo SKSs.
Uh...Yugo AKs do have a gas valves.  Look into it.
6/5/2008 11:54:24 AM EDT
[#23]
my bulgarian was launching shells flippin 15 feet into a tree that was next to me, that was cool
6/5/2008 4:33:34 PM EDT
[#24]
Both my Vector in 7.62x39 throw brass at 3:00 to 4:00 and they go at LEAST 15 feet.  This is from a bench, if I'm shooting offhand, then they go further.  
6/5/2008 4:55:31 PM EDT
[#25]

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I have not had any experience with a Yugoslavian AK with ejection of 5 feet, but I have examined a Yugo 59/66 that had failure to extract and ejection malfunctions. Those problems were caused by a corroded gas valve. You might want to investigate that possible cause.


AKs don't have a gas valve.  Only Yugo SKSs.
Uh...Yugo AKs do have a gas valves.  Look into it.


Yep, and I knew this. I didn't read as thoroughly as I should have.
6/5/2008 5:05:01 PM EDT
[#26]
at the range: not too far, they usually collide with people down the line

6/5/2008 8:38:02 PM EDT
[#27]

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My 7.62x39 rifles eject at 2 o'clock and about 10-15 feet.  Other calibers may be different.  I had one that ejected at 3 o'clock and would rain down on anyone to the right of me on the line.


+1 hehe  I always feel bad for the sucker(s) who shoot next to me
6/6/2008 1:06:11 AM EDT
[#28]

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I have not had any experience with a Yugoslavian AK with ejection of 5 feet, but I have examined a Yugo 59/66 that had failure to extract and ejection malfunctions. Those problems were caused by a corroded gas valve. You might want to investigate that possible cause.


AKs don't have a gas valve.  Only Yugo SKSs.
Uh...Yugo AKs do have a gas valves.  Look into it.


Yep, and I knew this. I didn't read as thoroughly as I should have.

Now that we all agree that the Yugo AK has a gas valve, does anyone know if corrosion on the valve might cause weak ejection in an AK?
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