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2/14/2008 8:04:21 PM EDT
Vector does make one hell of a nice rifle.  I picked this up off the EE the other day and put 600rds through it this afternoon.  After a little work with the sight tool I put down several 4-5"  100yd groups (and one 3" fluke group).  I didn't have as much luck at 200yds, but it's an AK after all.  The only complaint I have is the "punisher" stock.  My shoulder feels more like I spent all day shooting the shotguns.  

It's on an Armory USA Rec'vr...Any way to ID the parts used in the build?  





2/14/2008 8:21:10 PM EDT
[#1]
That's a nice looking gun.  Although I have never shot a side or under folder I can only imagine how you feel after 600 rds.
2/14/2008 8:32:00 PM EDT
[#2]
Sure looks like a Polish Tantal clone to me. Mine is an Interarms built on a later-year ('92 ?) donor weapon.

Usually your paperwork will have the list of 922r parts. Otherwise, look for numbers that may or may not match the original serial, or "US" on the parts to tell what's what.
2/14/2008 8:35:52 PM EDT
[#3]
Did the optics rail come with it from Vector, or was that installed later?
2/14/2008 8:40:07 PM EDT
[#4]
The original owner paid extra to have it installed by Vector.



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Did the optics rail come with it from Vector, or was that installed later?
2/15/2008 4:20:50 AM EDT
[#5]
AWWWW, man, damn!

I saw this thread and I thought you'd gotten of those milled Vectors you were talkin' about.



Oh well, nice rifle!!



2/15/2008 4:31:25 AM EDT
[#6]
The circle 11 is most likely polish.  

Those metal wire stocks aren't the greatest.. I have one but don't use it any more.  The wood stocks are more user friendly.
2/15/2008 6:37:05 AM EDT
[#7]
Nice rifle, congrats on getting it, they do build one heck of a nice piece. . I spoke with Vector recently to get clarification on their use of 922R parts, I was told their SOP is the Reciever (1), FCG(3), pistol grip(1), and slant brake(1).
2/15/2008 7:37:46 AM EDT
[#8]
the 11 in a circle means polish parts ......looks awesome, and I LOVE the tantal style folding stocks
2/15/2008 7:42:16 AM EDT
[#9]
Oh no, this one was in the works before I even asked about the Milled.  I called MMS but the two he had were synthetic.  If I'm gonna pay top dollar I'm holding out for wood



Quoted:
AWWWW, man, damn!

I saw this thread and I thought you'd gotten of those milled Vectors you were talkin' about.



Oh well, nice rifle!!



2/15/2008 12:02:24 PM EDT
[#10]
Yep, Polish front trunnion (most likely the rest of the parts are Polish).  If it is an all matching numbers kit then 95% chance the whole thing is Polish (besides the US compliant parts).  The side folding stock definitely looks to be Romanian though.
2/15/2008 12:29:02 PM EDT
[#11]
Hey now that is a nice rifle
2/15/2008 12:56:37 PM EDT
[#12]
Yep, I think I hustled the guy I bought it from


Quoted:
Hey now that is a nice rifle
2/15/2008 1:00:35 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Sure looks like a Polish Tantal clone to me.


A Tantal would be 5.45x39 caliber
2/15/2008 1:07:08 PM EDT
[#14]
That grip really sticks out like a sore thumb.  Otherwise I like it.
2/15/2008 1:12:31 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
AWWWW, man, damn!

I saw this thread and I thought you'd gotten of those milled Vectors you were talkin' about.



Oh well, nice rifle!!









Quoted:
Oh no, this one was in the works before I even asked about the Milled.  I called MMS but the two he had were synthetic.  If I'm gonna pay top dollar I'm holding out for wood







+ a million.
2/15/2008 1:51:26 PM EDT
[#16]
Nice.
2/15/2008 1:54:46 PM EDT
[#17]
dead sexy, and new are $500  hmmmmmm.......  nuff said
2/15/2008 7:00:35 PM EDT
[#18]
Stock is DEFINATELY NOT Romy...That one has the pronounced delta, and not the undercut delta the Romy's use..There are two different styles of wire side folders..The Romy...and The Polska/East German...This one is def the polska/deutshe style..

Very Nice Pol by the way..I have a Glenn Ridle built underfolder, and have been researching a wire sidefolder to join her in the Polish section of my safe...will have to check out Vector...very nice


Quoted:
Yep, Polish front trunnion (most likely the rest of the parts are Polish).  If it is an all matching numbers kit then 95% chance the whole thing is Polish (besides the US compliant parts).  The side folding stock definitely looks to be Romanian though.
2/15/2008 7:54:45 PM EDT
[#19]
Definately nice Polish 7.62 PMk style clone.  Personally would prefer a matching polish laminate buttstock due to the lack of a comfortable cheek weld on the Polish/E.German wire sidefolders...although I have them also.  Vector has definately come a long way in their manufacturing quality.  
2/16/2008 3:05:29 AM EDT
[#20]
I am only asking...

the optic rail appears to be mounted horizontally, askew.

Illusion or not?

Robb in Denver
2/16/2008 4:35:24 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
I am only asking...

the optic rail appears to be mounted horizontally, askew.

Illusion or not?

Robb in Denver


Hmmm, I see what your sayin'...

It seems to be in line with the bore, which seems right to me.  How can you tell w/o a dial indicator?


2/16/2008 4:55:07 AM EDT
[#22]
Eyeball.

The front of the rail is lower (as "balled" from the top edge of the receiver).

When I mounted my screw-on plate, I measure from the top of the rail (per the instructions) and scribed a line.  

I would be interested in knowing if it is, in fact, not level.

Have you measured it?

I may try for one of the last milled Vectors.......today......sure would like to know.

Robb in Denver
2/16/2008 10:58:29 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Eyeball.

The front of the rail is lower (as "balled" from the top edge of the receiver).

When I mounted my screw-on plate, I measure from the top of the rail (per the instructions) and scribed a line.  

I would be interested in knowing if it is, in fact, not level.

Have you measured it?

I may try for one of the last milled Vectors.......today......sure would like to know.

Robb in Denver




It looks parallel to the top of the receiver.  With my precision measuring tool (Stanley tape measure) I'm just shy of 7/16" from the top of the rail - to the top of the receiver.  This measured the same at both ends of the rail.  Hope this helps...


2/16/2008 12:15:15 PM EDT
[#24]
Glad to see that it measures level.

It must be my eyeballs.

Enjoy your new rifle!!

Robb in Denver
2/16/2008 4:41:17 PM EDT
[#25]
Seen many a railed AK have it look off if you view the bottom,
wereas the top is aligned.
2/16/2008 7:37:14 PM EDT
[#26]
Look the siderail looking askew is sort of an optical illusion I explained in an IM to the OP. Now for everybody. Its the receiver. To agree on terms lets call the part of the receiver that takes the dust cover the "top". The part that has the trigger is the "bottom". If you look at his siderail it is paralell on the top as it should be. It looks terribly crooked on the bottom of the siderail however. This is because the receiver gets "shorter" from top to bottom as you move from the rear of the rifle towards the barrel. See how it works to throw off your eye? I got it pretty quickly by looking at the other side of an AK I have next to me. The top of the siderail lines up with the bore and all is fine. Funny how something so simple can have a bunch of guy familiar with these scratching their heads. I'm not talking down to anyone here either. It had me saying WTF for a few minutes too. LOL
Cheers,
RWB64
2/17/2008 1:56:21 AM EDT
[#27]
Hmmmm...

The slope of the bottom of the receiver would certainly lend to an illusion.  As would the lettering "Vector" and the fact that the rear of the rail has a dark area around it and the area around the front of the rail is brighter. (Flash?)

However, both of the larger imaiges are large enough to measure off of my computer screen with the edge of a piece of paper and a pencil mark.

Not level.

I am not trying to rain on anyones parade nor distract their enjoyment of their new purchase.  But for the money, I would expect absolute, Bingo.

How about another photo?  With Mr. Stanely?  

May I reiterate that I am not talking down to anyone either.  Please consider my comments as a polite discussion among gentleman.

Robb in Denver
2/17/2008 4:44:26 AM EDT
[#28]
She's a perty little thang
2/18/2008 3:54:00 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
Hmmmm...


Not level.

I am not trying to rain on anyones parade nor distract their enjoyment of their new purchase.  But for the money, I would expect absolute, Bingo.

How about another photo?  With Mr. Stanely?  




I'll do you one better...See the pics below.  You are correct, the rail does climb slightly.  I don't know how much is acceptable and considered "in spec"?  Looks like 0.003 difference from the front to back of the rail (I really doubt this would cause a sight in problem).  My guess is if we measure other rails, we may find three thou isn't much.  



 
2/18/2008 4:45:27 PM EDT
[#30]
I think that angle is called "rake" and allows for upward bullet trajectory. Otherwise your optic may run out of elevation adjustment. Notice if the rail is held absolutely level, the barrel will be angled ever so slightly upward.

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