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Posted: 12/7/2007 7:28:49 AM EDT
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Hi all, Real quick question for the collective mind here on the board. Received my new stamped Vector AK from Atlantic Firearms and its everything I thought is would be at a great price based on finish alone I did have one area of question though and I think I know the answer already. The magazine that came with it went it no problem at all. I also had 5 other fully loaded 30rd mags that wouldn't go in. I had to rock them in place to get them to insert. These are Romanian deals. After closer examination, these mags were hitting what I believe are small wings of steel just enough to stop mag insertion correctly. I think these wings are used to help stabilize the mag a bit when inserted. Again, if I rock the mag from side to side it does go in eventually. Is it OK to Dremel these wings a bit to allow easier insertion fo the mag? Looks like I just need to take a little off the leading edge of each and only in the front. |
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A properly assembled AK will accept any mil-surp steel magazine. It sounds like yours needs work, but you can try a couple of other magazines first. If you decide to do it yourself, use a file rather than a dremel. If you need to take enough metal off the rail that you need a dremel, I'd return the rifle to the manufacturer. |
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I would give Vector a call before you start filing and just see what they say. If you start filing/grinding, you may void your warranty and Vector has a great warranty/customer service that you don't want to lose. Also, are you having to rock the mags side to side or front to back to get them to fit? If you do need to just take a little metal off, use a file and not the dremel. Go slow and take your time. It is very difficult to put metal back on. 
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| My first Vector had a problem with a couple mags I bought from a gunshow locally not wanting to insert well/easily. I kept inserting and removing them and eventually whatever it was that caused the problem resolved itself. May not be the best way to fix a problem, but that was two years ago and I've not had any problems since. |
not so......rifles are machines like everything else they have there tolerances, will MOST AKs work with mil surp magazines...yes......will ALL? not hardly some rifles are just more finicky than others, I suggest using some other mags.....if problem persists call Vector, as stated above they have excellent customer service and will take care of you. |
Mass production = problems.
I would expect it to be as great of fit, finish, and function as 99% of all the other Vector AKs out there. Vector makes a great rifle and I love mine! If you expect Vector rifles to have problems, you need to get out a little more... I could maybe see you saying that about WASRS, but Vector rifles?!?!?! |
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I had the exact same problem with my Vector. I had to force mags in and had a hell of a time getting them back out. It was the same no matter what mags I used, but the Chinese bakelite worked best. I ended up taking a fine jeweler's file and rounding the top/front of the mag catch. It wasn't much more than taking the finish off. It did the trick. You definitely don't want to use a Dremel in this case! Take off a hair and try it with a good cross section of your mags. |
If it won't work with any mil-surp steel magazine it's not PROPERLY ASSEMBLED. It's out of spec. That's not rocket science. Or did the manufacturer intentionally make it so it only worked with one magazine? |
again, wrong.......I have had chinease AKs that took most mags and occasionally wouldnt work with some yugos......I have seen yugos, get caught up on a couple chinease and russian mags......I have seen a Maddi take all types of mags and got caught up on some old steel mil surp mags and polymer.....shall I continue? shit happens its called Murphys law my friend sometimes it works sometimes they dont The OP stated that the Mag that came with the rifle worked fine, but the other mags he had to be rocked into place.....well did they work after? because I have to rock all my mags in place to work on my AK lol......maybe its just a little tight and needs a little breaking in...............If all mags DIDNT work with the rifle I would say there is an issue and may be out of spec.....but to have one mag work, and the others rocked into place? to the OP try a couple other Mags and see what happens....again Vector is a reputable company and IF there is an issue will do you right
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Hey all, Thanks for all the different perspectives. The original magazine that came with it and another I already had click right in. The other four though will go into place but you have to slightly twist and rock them side to side to get them over those little wings just above the receiver dimples. Once in, these mags fit real tight but will extract easy enough. I've ordered two more mags from a different source to see what happens. I don't think this is enough to send an AK back as I know that area will eventually wear just enough for smooth mag insertion. In fact, I can already see wear marks now .. |
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troll get a life and a clue out of 1000 postings about a WASR...... 5 may be positive out of 1000 postings about a Vector.......5 may be negative hmmmm no brainer ....buy from a quality reputable company that stands behind their product 100% or buy a bottom of the barrel throw away AK from Romania that has been guted from a single stack to double, with shitty sights, an even worse trigger, and horrible mag wobble, and what is sad is that the price between a WASR and VECTOR in alot of areas are the same ........let me think about that one for a bit LOLOLLOL nothing in life is 100% boys, not even a Vector, but I look at quality, track records, and if a company stands behind its product.......and your CENTURY arms rifle wont ever be able to catch up to the quality, reputation, or even have half the caliber of customer service a Vector arms AK offers......ever LOLOL and your willing to spend your money(and in some areas as much as a vector) on that?? HAHAH thats just down right dumb....if I am looking at 5 WASRs on a shelf and I have to give them all a once over to see which one has the LEAST amont of issues from problems listed above, why would I buy that? I wouldnt expect that type of shitty workman ship from say Bushmaster, FN, Arsenal and neither would 95% of us.....so why would I let CENTURY arms skate by? so PLEASE dont compare your CENTURY ARMS to a VECTOR and please dont insult our intelligence. If you enjoy wasting your hard earned cash on mediocre dung at best...have at it my friend I apologize to the OP for this hijack......but some people in this thread spew ignorance enjoy your CENTURY LOL!!!  |
5 minutes with a fine file will probably fix it. Just go slow, file a little and check the fit.When all your magazines insert easily you're finished. |
You're describing other rifles that are out of spec. The magazine well must be sized so that it will accept any magazine. If it isn't large enough to do that, then Ivan or Kim or Nyugen is in a world of hurt when he uses up his ammunition and picks up a full magazine from his deceased comrade. If the magazine doesn't fit, he's likely to join his now deceased comrade. That's why most magazines wobble slightly in a properly built AK. This doesn't seem like rocket science to me, but then I've had to open the magazine well and the lower rail on every rifle I've built. |
 JEEZ, grow a SKIN, survivorman! I was just just messin with ya ... 
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to the OP I am glad that the mags are working, you may have a mag every so often give you issues, this does not mean that the rifle is out of spec, it just means something is up with that mag plain and simple(because if a whole rifle can be out of spec, couldnt a mag? LOL)....again if all your mags from the get go didnt work I would say send her back.....but that is clearly not the case......again if there are issues, which really doesnt sound like you have one, contact Vector they WILL take care of you, unlike some other companies mentioned in this thread.....have a good one |
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I have four mags. laid them all on a flat surface and put a light behind them. Two are the same and two are fatter at the plate that goes into the well. Sanded them down with the old disc sander. Fit perfect. About 5 minutes. Check the thickness of the mag before you worry about the rifle. My experience. Robb in Denver |
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