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Posted: 8/14/2008 6:12:57 AM EDT
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.......maintain their rifles? They shoot corrosive ammo all day, so they have to do something when they get a chance. The only thing I can guess is that the field kitchens boil drums of water and everybody files past and dunks his rifle in, sloshes it around and then goes away to field strip and and lubricate it. |
Sounds good, except that I am not sure KCl is soluble in diesel fuel. I am assuming that current combloc military ammo is corrosive because the surplus is. Have they changed their primers? |
USGIs did it all the time in WW2 , all you need is the proper cleaner. Corrosive ammo is not as bad as some are lead to believe. I have successfully cleaned after shooting corrosive ammo with Hoppes9 and patch and brushes. You don't really need to be boiling water. |
+1 Same with my Tantal, but its moly resin'ed. Only muzzle displayed any rust activity after a week of not cleaning. |
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They use 'alkali cleaner' on parts exposed to the gas residue. Translated Sov AK manual here: www.box.net/shared/cu2djae1zb Feel free to pass it along and/or host copies yourself. BSW |
Thanks for the manual. It answered a few questions I was about to start threads about. |
I don't think the Russian army shoots that crap. |
You guys are kidding, right? You guys honestly think that Russian soldiers crack open another case of Wolf brand ammo - a US company who imports ammo from Serbia, Russia, and Germany? |
Just like us, they get the lowest bid stuff that meets the spec. I suspect that Wolf doesn't as it's missing the lacquer coating that other M43 ammo has. BSW |
Wolf is basically the comercial brand name for Tula Cartridge Works. They don't crack open a box of Wolf Classic, but they do use boxes marked whatever TCW is in Cyrillic The history of the Tula Cartridge Works dates back to the year of 1880, when on the 17th of May the emperor Alexander II approved the regulations of Military Council on establishment of the ammunition plant with attraction of private сapital. The right to establish the plant was granted to the collegiate assessor Theodor George von Gyllenschmidt (1828 - 1903). The Gyllenschmidt's plant was designed to produce small-caliber 4,2 - line (10,67 mm) cartridges for Berdan N2 infantry rifle. Later on the plant also produced cartridges for 1891-year model 3-line rifle, revolvers and shotguns. In 1880 the construction of the plant was over and a contract was concluded with the State Ordnance Bureau (GAU) for the delivery of 210 million rounds during 7 years. In 1882 the plant began to operate at full power - 30 million rounds a year. In 1886 the brass-rolling mill and the copper foundry were built which fully supplied the production of ammunition. During the years of World War I the Tula Cartridge Works supplied the Russian Army with approximately 25% of all ammunition manufactured by domestic plants. In 1918 the ammunition plant in Tula was nationalized. The first five-year plan provided for fundamental reconstruction of ammunition production with a view to develop productive capacity on the basis of raising the technical level and providing the increase in labour productivity. Owing to unfitness of the old factory buildings for reconstruction, provision was made for construction of new buildings where the base of ammunition production was transferred upon realization of the project in 1929-1931. Used for manufacture of cartridge cases up to the late 1930s was brass, for manufacture of bullet jackets - German silver. Brass and German silver were scarce raw materials. In 1928 for the purpose of saving strategic non-ferrous metals the government set a task to organize and master the production of bimetal on the base of ammunition plant. The construction of the shop for production of bimetal in Tula began in 1929. In 1930 the equipment began to arrive at the plant from Germany. In 1932 the rolling-mill shop began to produce bimetal for the first time in Russia. In 1933 mastered for the first time in ammunition production was the manufаcture of cemented-carbide tools. Thus, in Tula during the first five-year periods put into operation was practically the new ammunition plant to provide the growth of ammunition output at a considerably higher technical and organizational level. On the 14th of September by decision of the government the ammunition production was granted the status of economically independent enterprise. And in 1941 it was named after S.M.Kirov. In the pre-war period the Kirov Works produced 7,62 mm cartridges for machine-gun "SHKAS", 7,62 mm rifle cartridges, 7,62 mm pistol cartridges "TT" and cartridges for revolver "Nagant". The increase in output was provided by the advancement of the technology of ammunition and tool-making production , renewal of equipment and, mainly, by automation and mechanization of production processes. From the beginning of the Great Patriotic War to October, 1941 the plant provided uninterrupted supply of the front with ball cartridges. In October, 1941 the plant was evacuated to the town of Yuryuzan, the Cheliabinsk region, the rolling-mill base was transferred to the town of Nytva, the Perm region. In connection with the successful offensive taken by the Read Army in the environs of Moscow and Tula in November - December, 1941 the plant was set а task of restoring the production of ammunition for our army. With a view to restore the ammunition production, dismantled at the enterprises of of local industry and delivered to the plant were about 100 units of metal-cutting and pressing equipment. Shipped from related enterprises was the minimum quantity of equipment for production of 7,62 mm cartridges, tools, materials, and in April, 1942 the plant was again officially registrated as individual enterprise. In 1942 produced by the plant were over 100 000 rounds, by the end of 1943 - over 388 million rounds. In 1949 our plant was one of the first in industry to get down to work on development of processes for production of ammunition on automatic rotor lines (ARL). In 1959-1965 created was an integrated and automated production of steel cartridge-cases. In 1966-1970 the work was continued on further introduction of rotor lines into ammunition production, development of the plant's own ARL designs and introduction of rotor lines into other kinds of production. Much attention was also given to creation of integrated, highly mechanized and automated shops and bays on the base of ARL. In 1971 for introduction of new techniques the plant was decorated with the Order of the Red Banner of Labour. In 1973 the plant was the first in industry to master the production of 5,54 mm cart-ridges for AK-74 submachine gun and became the base one in the industry on development of production processes for this ammunition. In 1974 the reconstruction of the rolling-mill production was over and the first lot of bimetal was produced by method of cold cladding. The work on theoretical substantiation, development and introduction of the original highly efficient process of production of bimetal by method of cold cladding was awarded the USSR State Prize. The Tula Cartridge Works exerted a considerable influence upon the development of the ammunition industry of Russia - automation and mechanization of production processes, mastering mass production of precision instruments and measuring tools, mastering methods for manufacture of tools from hard alloys, mastering production of bimetal N1, N3, mastering the process of production of bimetal by method of cold cladding, mastering the production of 5,45 mm cartridge for AK-74 submachine gun. In 1991-1997 the J-SC "TCW" mastered the new line - production of ammunition for sporting and hunting arms (PSO). At present the ammunition production turns out sporting and hunting ammunition in calibers 5,45 x 18; 5,45x39; 7,62x39; 5,56x45 "Remington"; 5.56x39 "Bars"; 9x17 "Kurz"; 9x18 "Makarov"; 9x19 "Luger"; . 45 AUTO etc. Mastered has been the production of ammunition for service firearms: 12,3x22; 12,5x35. WOLF-under this trademark the Tula-made sporting and hunting ammunition is known and sold abroad. |
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Wolf is a US company that imports ammo from several manufacturers. Tula is where the black box ammo comes from, but not where the Military Classic comes from, not where Wolf Gold comes from, not where the .22 comes from, and not where the shot shells come from. The non-corrosive commercial ammo and corrosive military ammo are two different things. The lead core non-corrosive Wolf ammo you buy is not the same as military ammo. |
I think I remember reading that corrosive primers are supposed to be more resistant to less than ideal storage conditions. I could be wrong. |
You're right. |
Corrosive primers are better for the harsh Siberian winters. |
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