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9/10/2006 9:27:48 PM EDT
Had a sale posted in the EE, and someone said that it might not be legal so I would like to double check before it goes through.  Is it illegal to sell my partially completed blank without an ffl?  It just has the magwell and the trigger well cut, and some of the holes drilled.  The rails are not installed, niether is anything else.  Just a blank with some holes in it.  Is this really considered a receiver?  Looked on google and the BATF site but couldn't find anything.  Thanks
9/10/2006 9:39:05 PM EDT
[#1]
Good luck finding an answer to that one.  

80% receivers are legal obviously, but I dunno what moves it from 80% to a full reciever.

A flat is just a piece of metal, but when bent its a gun, because it has all of the holes, magwell, trigger area drilled out and ready to use.  But a blank is just a peice of metal, so how many holes makes it a gun?
9/11/2006 5:08:14 AM EDT
[#2]
It can have 1 or 10 holes and no bends, it is not a receiver. It can also have 1 or 10 bends and and no holes and it's not a reciever. But if it has 1 hole and 1 bend, it is a receiver. Basically, if it has any combination of bends and holes, it would be considered a receiver. You won't find this written down anywhere I don't think, but it is the test you should use.

AFAIK, all holes on a flat or all bends on a receiver channel with no holes equals 80%. That is as far as you can go. If any additional work is done to them, it's more than 80%

Maybe you are thinking that it has half the bends and one or two holes might equal 80%, I don't think the ATF would agree with you.

Is selling it really worth the worry?
9/11/2006 6:40:36 AM EDT
[#3]
There is not a legal definition of 80% firearm; there is a definition of a Firearm and if you have made a firearm an FFL is needed for an out of state sale.

You would have to submit it to the atf tech branch to determine if it is a firearm which is not worth it unless you are thinking of selling them as a business.


9/11/2006 12:42:49 PM EDT
[#4]
My understanding is you can have a flat with holes, or a blank with no holes. An even partially bent flat constitutes a receiver, so I would guess that a blank with some holes cut out makes it a receiver also.

The only AK blanks I have seen for sale have no holes in them at all. If some of the holes could be legally added, I'm sure many dealers would gladly have 'em that way as they would be eaiser to build and thus more marketable.

My advice: play it safe.



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