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11/28/2005 5:52:37 PM EDT
sorry guys i know you have been asked these things a ton of times but i just really found out about building AKs.  I have read what i can on here and looked as far back as i can.  Seems to me that some ban is going to be inforced that is going to parts kits cost more.  I curently own a SAR-1 and love it but they are getting costly to find.  I want to stock up on parts kits now while they are cheap like i should have done with the SAR.  I have a grand i can spend now.  I figure the US parts and recievers will always be roughly the same price.  Cheaper than dirt.com has 2 parts kits for sale.  One romanian that it says are for stamped (140) and one yugoslavian it say are for milled (130).  I am not a fan of the forward hand grip.  I pretty much just want to build/ have more guns like my SAR-1.  I did not think there was any diff between the milled and stamped except manufactor process.  Which one of these kits should i buy?   Can i make a decent AK from either?Please help me out guys.  Thanks a ton!
11/28/2005 6:17:38 PM EDT
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sorry guys i know you have been asked these things a ton of times but i just really found out about building AKs.  I have read what i can on here and looked as far back as i can.  Seems to me that some ban is going to be inforced that is going to parts kits cost more.  I curently own a SAR-1 and love it but they are getting costly to find.  I want to stock up on parts kits now while they are cheap like i should have done with the SAR.  I have a grand i can spend now.  I figure the US parts and recievers will always be roughly the same price.  Cheaper than dirt.com has 2 parts kits for sale.  One romanian that it says are for stamped (140) and one yugoslavian it say are for milled (130).  I am not a fan of the forward hand grip.  I pretty much just want to build/ have more guns like my SAR-1.  I did not think there was any diff between the milled and stamped except manufactor process.  Which one of these kits should i buy?   Can i make a decent AK from either?Please help me out guys.  Thanks a ton!



I personally choose to support the Industry partners and dealers that patronize this site: Cope's Dist. the owner, Roger is active here on the boards, and his products/prices are very good.

If you're looking to build, the way to go is "Stamped" parts kits. Get together with some other builders from here, and they'll be glad to talk/walk and hold your hand on the first few builds, not to mention bring along the very necessary special tools for "rolling your own" (jigs to bend a flat, Rivet crushers, or spot welders) or simply assist in completeing a build from a 100% reciever.

I'd recommend reading through the tacked threads in this forum, they were extremely useful in obtaining the info I needed over the last 6 weeks to start building my own Ak series rifles....

BTW-I've heard two rumors of the Barrel ban going away, one place was herewww.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=412934

Just remember, when you build your rifle(s), you get to buy the
11/28/2005 6:26:33 PM EDT
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yeah i read the tacked stuff.  There is a group in my area that is looking at doing a build party so the whole reciever issue i will deal with later.  That also goes for the assembly and compliance issue.  I also saw the thing about the ban ending but i never trust the BATF when it comes them doing stuff.  They seem more often to act if it hurts us. I guess the question i have is more like the problems i had when i first bought my complete SAR-1.  There are a ton of diff varients and names.  WHat are the real differences between the parts kits?  IS romanian better than yugoslavian?  Is there a difference in the pars kit for a milled vs stamped?  I see and find a ton of info about the recievers and fabing them.  I have found very little info on the parts kits themselves and what makes a parts kit good or bad.
11/28/2005 8:54:53 PM EDT
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The Romanians kits have chrome lined bores. They've seen very little use. The Yugos have been through a war and don't have chrome lined bores. Quite a few of them have dark pitted bores. Stamped receiver is the way to go for a home build. A milled receiver is way more expensive , and alot harder to build. Romanian kit on a stamped receiver is the best way to get started. IMO
11/28/2005 9:08:40 PM EDT
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thanks, think i will pick up a few of those kits.  I have looked at the kits and it looks to me that the milled and stamped recievers use different kits.  Is that correct?
11/28/2005 10:55:36 PM EDT
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thanks, think i will pick up a few of those kits.  I have looked at the kits and it looks to me that the milled and stamped recievers use different kits.  Is that correct?



That is correct, although I have seen people use a milled kit with a stamped reiever. I definately would not try it for your first build.

edited, missing a few key words.
11/28/2005 11:00:37 PM EDT
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cool, I have gone to cope dist.com and plan on buying 3 of the romy parts kits, and the nessesary compliance parts.  The only thing i can not not figure is the double vs single hook trigger.  It seems like some of the reciever flats specify which type of trigger.  What are the pros and cons of the single vs double hook.  Can any of teh flats be modified to accept the double or single?
11/29/2005 1:13:37 AM EDT
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The only thing i can not not figure is the double vs single hook trigger.
As far as I can tell the double hook triggers seem to be a little smoother. Hopefully someone else will comment on this because I'm not sure of the pros/cons.

Can any of teh flats be modified to accept the double or single?
Yes, If the flat (or 100% receiver) is setup for a single hook you can cut a notch in it so it will accept a double hook trigger. If the flat is setup for a double hook you can put a single hook in it without any modification.


If you haven't seen pookies site yet you should take a look at it. Tons of great information - Pookie's Gun Stuff
11/29/2005 7:50:10 AM EDT
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Can any of teh flats be modified to accept the double or single?
Yes, If the flat (or 100% receiver) is setup for a single hook you can cut a notch in it so it will accept a double hook trigger. If the flat is setup for a double hook you can put a single hook in it without any modification.
The flats I ordered and recieved from Cope's already were set up for double hooked triggers, so no issue there.

If you haven't seen pookies site yet you should take a look at it. Tons of great information - Pookie's Gun Stuff

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