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11/16/2004 6:03:30 PM EDT
I think I may be tempted to install an m203 style 37mm grenade launcher on my AMD when its complete.  Anybody know of any legal issues here?  Or have any advice on doing this?  Also, I was thinking....  Would it be legal to mount a shotgun on an "assault" rifle like in the movie predator?  If the "masterkey" (shotgun mounted where grenade launcher would be) setup is legal I may just have to do it.....  Im really just exploring the possibilities right now...

    So what do u guys think???  Am I crazy?

Thanks
Gus Mascari
11/16/2004 6:36:52 PM EDT
[#1]
The shotgun would require a tax stamp as a shortbarreled shotgun, and if you area going to go that route, might as well get a stamp for the SBR while you are at it.
11/16/2004 7:21:22 PM EDT
[#2]
Well thats only if the shotgun barrel is under a certain legnth...  How long does a shotgun barrel have to legally be?  16"?  Because I could work around a longer barreled shotgun...  And just extend the amd barrel a little more so it looks good.


Thx
Gus Mascari
11/16/2004 7:23:35 PM EDT
[#3]
what does the tax stamp cost?  
11/16/2004 7:25:45 PM EDT
[#4]
$200
11/16/2004 7:44:13 PM EDT
[#5]
Shotgun has to be 18"

You'd be better off mounting the shotgun over the top of the rifle if you could manage that.

I hear duct tape works well :-)
11/16/2004 8:35:50 PM EDT
[#6]
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!  Nice one man.........  Ok well scratch the shotgun idea........  So what do u guys think of an M203 on an AMD65?
11/17/2004 2:20:42 PM EDT
[#7]
Check here:

http://www.37mm.com

IMO it just doesn't work.
11/17/2004 6:04:09 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I think I may be tempted to install an m203 style 37mm grenade launcher on my AMD when its complete.  Anybody know of any legal issues here?  Or have any advice on doing this?  Also, I was thinking....  Would it be legal to mount a shotgun on an "assault" rifle like in the movie predator?  If the "masterkey" (shotgun mounted where grenade launcher would be) setup is legal I may just have to do it.....  Im really just exploring the possibilities right now...

    So what do u guys think???  Am I crazy?

Thanks
Gus Mascari



Check out this site:
http://www.ak-47.us/GP-30.php

I ran across this while I was surfing for AK stuff...
11/21/2004 2:19:16 PM EDT
[#9]
NOPE the GP-30 is illegal to import in to the US.

Department of the Treasury
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms

Oct 16 2003

Dear Mr. XXX:

This refers to your letter of June 30, 2003 to the Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in which you ask about importing
a deactivated Russian GP-30 Grenade Launcher advertised by FSU
Connections Ltd, in the United Kingdom at www.rusmilitary.com.

The Russian GP-30 Grenade Launcher is a destructive device and a firearm
subject to the provisions of Title 18, United States Code, Chapter 44
and Title 26, U.S.C. Chapter 53, the National Firearms Act (NFA). It is
unlawful for a person to possess a Russian GP-30 Grenade Launcher in
serviceable or unserviceable condition unless it is registered to such
person in accordance with the provisions of the National Firearms Act.

It is unlawful for anyone to import a Russian GP-30 Grenade Launcher, or
parts for a Russian GP-30 grenade launcher without an approved
Application and Permit for Importation of Arms, Ammunition and
Implements of War (ATF Form 6). However, it is prohibited from
importation under 18 U.S.C. section 925 (d) and 26 U.S.C. section 5844
unless it is imported for government use. It does have a firearm frame
or receiver that is also prohibited from importation. Further, this
firearm is not listed among the Russian firearms approved for
importation under Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 478,
section 478.52 (formerly Part 47, section 47.52) therefore the firearm
and all parts and components of the firearm are prohibited from
importation into the United States.

We thank you for your inquiry and trust that the foregoing has been
responsive.

Sincerely yours,

Sterling Nixon
Chief, Firearms Technology Branch


Here are some pictures that the ATF took from the sample received.
www.atf.gov/firearms/firearmstech/gp-30_sa.pdf

But you can try, but you'd go to jail.

I hasve been wanting one of these for years but I'm not going to spend $400. and lose my rights if caught.
Although, getting it without the barrel would be a different thing all together......


BISHOP
11/21/2004 9:37:27 PM EDT
[#10]
I knew when I read this it sounded fishy:


Unlike deactivated rifles, GP-30 technically does NOT have a receiver (which is treated by B.A.F.T. as a prohibited for importation gun part). So for the US-based customers it is possible at present to purchase GP-30 via our Mail Order service. Credit & debit card payments are welcome. Please use ORDER FORM for your convenience.


Just another good example of a reason to not trust a source that is trying to get your money when it comes to legal issues!
11/22/2004 6:13:25 PM EDT
[#11]
Whats up

Well these are my two cents on your idea of mounting a 37mm launcher to an amd65 i'm new to this site but have been a fanatic of firearms for many years.  Everyone has their own opinion of what looks cool on a firearm, i dont see the point of mounting a launcher to the gun (thats just my opinion)  i mean when will you use it, so the only reason i could think to put one on is for the cool looking factor, i bought a 6 shot semi auto 37mm a few years ago after seeing terminator 2 then when i watched the movie again he actually had a 12 shot to my dissapointment, nontheless it was a cool looking 37 launcher, i never shot it once, but then again i live in the city so not many places to shoot such weapons, so with your idea in hand if you want something that looks cool and original i would try one of the new airsoft GP-30 launchers, i've seen a few on airsoft sites before, i'm sure with some minor fitting you could mount one to a live gun and you would be within the law, just an idea for you

http://www.cobraairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=1464]
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