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6/8/2015 1:47:34 PM EDT
Went to the range this weekend. Sure seem like a lot of stuff I need to carry.

To the subject. I carry my 16" Carbine in a zippered bag 33" long. I would like to also carry in this bag a cleaning rod and bore guide. Problem is my rod (Pro-Shot) is 40" overall. With a bore guide installed I could get away with a 28" rod + handle. Pro-Shot's rods are 26" and 36".

I guess what I am asking is how do you clean at the range?
6/8/2015 4:55:37 PM EDT
[#1]
I carry a Otis Rip Cord in my range bag and leave the cleaning rods at home.

I also keep a 20" brass rod in my bag just in case I need to clear the bore.
6/8/2015 8:56:18 PM EDT
[#2]
That sounds like a good idea. Do you pull that through a bore guide or just straight through the chamber? No rifling damage.
Thanks
6/9/2015 6:05:04 PM EDT
[#3]
Bore guides are a waste of money.
6/10/2015 1:01:35 AM EDT
[#4]
I find myself not using a rod very often anymore. I just use a boresnake and brushes with solvents, then lube. I guess I've never really fouled up a barrel to the point that it needed serious scrubbing with a rod. I'm not a high round count shooter, though, so my method works for me.
6/10/2015 12:16:45 PM EDT
[#5]
I like a bore guide to help prevent rifling damage.

I have a 24" RRA SS that is hard to get the copper out of. even after 20 to 30 rounds. How many passes does it take with a boresnake or a ripcord?

I clean with Butch's, Montana Copper Killer, Bore Tech Cu2. I get the best results with the Cu2.
6/10/2015 4:30:30 PM EDT
[#6]
I use a Dewey 24 inch stainless steel rod.
It fits a Colt M4 with a 16 inch barrel perfectly with a patch holder on it.

http://www.brownells.com/gun-cleaning-chemicals/cleaning-rods-amp-accessories/cleaning-rods/dewey-stainless-steel-rods-prod5635.aspx?psize=96&avs|Caliber_1=AAD_22 Caliber (xzzx223-xzzx224)

If needed you can screw a stainless steel extension to whatever rod you use.
You can usually get pistol rod extensions or extensions in jointed rod kits.

If you use an extension it may not fit the rod perfectly and you may have a "step" where they join.
Just use a stone to bevel the larger rod to fit the other.

One trick is to go to a hardware store and buy a section of steel conduit that will fit over the rod.
Put some plastic cap plugs on the ends, and this greatly reduced the chance of bending your rod.

Another option is to use a jointed screw-together rod like the GI issue rod.
The trick here is to PULL the rod through the bore FROM THE REAR.
I put the assembled rod down the barrel from the rear of the upper receiver, put a patch on the patch holder and pull it to the rear.
This eliminates any chance of the joints of the rod damaging anything.
6/25/2015 4:09:17 AM EDT
[#7]
Otis cleaning kit.
6/26/2015 7:35:56 PM EDT
[#8]
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Went to the range this weekend. Sure seem like a lot of stuff I need to carry.

To the subject. I carry my 16" Carbine in a zippered bag 33" long. I would like to also carry in this bag a cleaning rod and bore guide. Problem is my rod (Pro-Shot) is 40" overall. With a bore guide installed I could get away with a 28" rod + handle. Pro-Shot's rods are 26" and 36".

I guess what I am asking is how do you clean at the range?
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I actually transport my cleaning rods in pvc pipes cut to length. I glue an endcap on one end, and just keep the endcap removable on the other. Then I just throw those in the truck bed.
6/26/2015 9:09:33 PM EDT
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I like a bore guide to help prevent rifling damage.

I have a 24" RRA SS that is hard to get the copper out of. even after 20 to 30 rounds. How many passes does it take with a boresnake or a ripcord?

I clean with Butch's, Montana Copper Killer, Bore Tech Cu2. I get the best results with the Cu2.
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Bore guides are typically used to minimize damage to the crown.  Unless you have zero coordination a bore guide won't do anything for your rifling.

If you've got unacceptable copper buildup after 20-30 rounds you've got issues with the bore, as in rough rifling.  My gut tells me you're too worried about cleaning.  All your rifles really need is a quick pull or two with a snake every few hundred rounds, and maybe pull the BCG and give that a quick once-over.  I give my rifles a "thorough" cleaning MAYBE once a year, and they all shoot fine.  Keep it lubed and out of the grit and you'll be fine.
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