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3/27/2010 3:50:38 PM EDT
for my new WOA Stainless Steel Barrel.  I am looking for something that works well and is also safe for stainless steel.  

Any suggestions?
3/27/2010 4:16:50 PM EDT
[#1]
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3/27/2010 5:19:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Butches bore shine is my favorite.
3/27/2010 5:33:02 PM EDT
[#3]
Is there a specific cleaner supposed to be used for stainless steel barrels?  Some people suggest that major damage can be caused by some products.
3/27/2010 5:37:20 PM EDT
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Is there a specific cleaner supposed to be used for stainless steel barrels?  Some people suggest that major damage can be cuased by some products.


As long as the instructions are followed, I don't see how damage could occur.
3/27/2010 5:47:54 PM EDT
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Butches bore shine is my favorite.


I have heard great things about Butch's and also KG.  If I go with Butch's, what size botlle will last me a good long time?



3/27/2010 6:06:47 PM EDT
[#6]
yeah..easy...six passes with a boresnake and a dab of Breakfree.
3/27/2010 9:25:36 PM EDT
[#7]
I heard Butches bore shine is not all that ..  KG works good.I  just found out today that Sweets is the way to go . So I will be tring out Sweets.
3/28/2010 6:29:10 AM EDT
[#8]
I have had good luck with sweets 7.62 and wipeout foam (if you do not mind waiting overnight).
3/28/2010 8:42:15 AM EDT
[#9]
I've had good luck with sweets and also Hoppes #9 Benchrest (not regular Hoppes #9, although it is a good general purpose solvent.)
3/28/2010 8:57:49 AM EDT
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I've had good luck with sweets and also Hoppes #9 Benchrest (not regular Hoppes #9, although it is a good general purpose solvent.)


Thanks for your insight....is Hoppes #9 safe for stainless steel.  Someone was saying it will ruin the barrel.  I'm not sure about all of that.

3/28/2010 9:13:31 AM EDT
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Thanks for your insight....is Hoppes #9 safe for stainless steel.  Someone was saying it will ruin the barrel.  I'm not sure about all of that.


Only if you do not remove it.

For a quick and cheap copper remover, I use 2 parts Janitor Strength Ammonia (Ace Harware $2.49 per quart) to 1 part Ivory Liquid Dish Detergent (~$1.75 to $2.00 per pint).

For under $4.50, I have 3 pints worth of copper remover, or ~$0.75 per 8 ozs.
3/28/2010 12:15:08 PM EDT
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I've had good luck with sweets and also Hoppes #9 Benchrest (not regular Hoppes #9, although it is a good general purpose solvent.)


Thanks for your insight....is Hoppes #9 safe for stainless steel.  Someone was saying it will ruin the barrel.  I'm not sure about all of that.



I've never had a problem - I just hose it out with aerosol Rem-Oil after using, which is the same thing I do for all barrels.  I don't leave any copper solvents or other products, other than oil, in the bores after cleaning.

Hoppes #9 and #9 benchrest are what I use to clean my Rem. 700 with stainless 5R barrel for at least the last 4 or 5 years.  No problems.
3/28/2010 2:27:50 PM EDT
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I've had good luck with sweets and also Hoppes #9 Benchrest (not regular Hoppes #9, although it is a good general purpose solvent.)


Thanks for your insight....is Hoppes #9 safe for stainless steel.  Someone was saying it will ruin the barrel.  I'm not sure about all of that.



I've never had a problem - I just hose it out with aerosol Rem-Oil after using, which is the same thing I do for all barrels.  I don't leave any copper solvents or other products, other than oil, in the bores after cleaning.

Hoppes #9 and #9 benchrest are what I use to clean my Rem. 700 with stainless 5R barrel for at least the last 4 or 5 years.  No problems.


Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.  Sounds like a real good common sense approach to cleaning and protection.  Common sense....this site (as great as it is) could use some more of that.

3/28/2010 2:47:05 PM EDT
[#14]
On stainless, you've got to worry about chemical discoloration.

How 'bout J-B bore cleaner, which uses an abrasive to clean.

Yes, it's "safe" for barrels and bores.

Remington Bore Cleaner also scrubs out fouling, rather than chemicaly
"disolving" it out.

Just keep bore cleaner in the BORE (and OUT of your trigger mechanism)

Just an idea....
3/28/2010 7:09:31 PM EDT
[#15]
I have really come to like Blue Wonder. After a few passes this stuff really does leave your bore shiny.

http://www.bluewonder.us/BlueWonderGunCleaner.html
3/28/2010 8:24:49 PM EDT
[#16]
I have tried Sweets 7.62 Solvent, Barnes CR-10 and the Outers Foaming Bore Cleaner. All work very well for removing copper. Cleaner turns a nice shade of blue. Keep cleaning until there is no more blue. Sweets and CR-10 are heavy on the ammonia smell, your wife won't like it if you clean your rifle in the house. The Outers Foaming Bore Cleaner doesn't smell at all and its so easy to use, I vote for the Outers. Walmart usually carries it.
3/31/2010 5:26:39 AM EDT
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I have tried Sweets 7.62 Solvent, Barnes CR-10 and the Outers Foaming Bore Cleaner. All work very well for removing copper. Cleaner turns a nice shade of blue. Keep cleaning until there is no more blue. Sweets and CR-10 are heavy on the ammonia smell, your wife won't like it if you clean your rifle in the house. The Outers Foaming Bore Cleaner doesn't smell at all and its so easy to use, I vote for the Outers. Walmart usually carries it.


I have tried all of these as well and my results were the same. But I have a 375H&H that gets so much copper fouling that nothing worked as well as KG-12.
3/31/2010 6:22:37 AM EDT
[#18]
I've used Hoppes Elite foam, wipe out, and my old classic original; Shooter's Choice.  

Wipe out is my favorite, i use the accellerator with it.  One wet patch of accellerator and a squirt of foam.  Let it sit for 30 minutes and patch it out.  Will not hurt the bore.

The Hoppes Elite was slow and not aggressive.  
The shooter's choice is slow too but it works decent.

I haven't had the opportunity to try a lot of the other new copper solvents.
3/31/2010 8:11:35 AM EDT
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I've used Hoppes Elite foam, wipe out, and my old classic original; Shooter's Choice.  

Wipe out is my favorite, i use the accellerator with it.  One wet patch of accellerator and a squirt of foam.  Let it sit for 30 minutes and patch it out.  Will not hurt the bore.

The Hoppes Elite was slow and not aggressive.  
The shooter's choice is slow too but it works decent.

I haven't had the opportunity to try a lot of the other new copper solvents.


Hoppe's Elite is rebranded MPro7.

I like Wipe Out as well, and I always have bore foam in my travel cleaning kit.

I included my recipie of a low cost, very effective, home made copper removal liquid.  It is still based on Ammonia, so it smells and needs to be removed before storing your firearms, but at  roughly $0.75 per 8oz, it is cheap.
3/31/2010 8:56:59 AM EDT
[#20]
I use Tetra Copper Solvent -

works quickly, in as little as 15 minutes - safe, can be left in overnight - easy to tell if it's working, turns the patch purple.


The only negative is it will damage bronze (jags & patches) unless they are rinsed with a bore cleaner.
4/1/2010 4:48:31 PM EDT
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I've had good luck with sweets and also Hoppes #9 Benchrest (not regular Hoppes #9, although it is a good general purpose solvent.)


Thanks for your insight....is Hoppes #9 safe for stainless steel.  Someone was saying it will ruin the barrel.  I'm not sure about all of that.



I've never had a problem - I just hose it out with aerosol Rem-Oil after using, which is the same thing I do for all barrels.  I don't leave any copper solvents or other products, other than oil, in the bores after cleaning.

Hoppes #9 and #9 benchrest are what I use to clean my Rem. 700 with stainless 5R barrel for at least the last 4 or 5 years.  No problems.


Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.  Sounds like a real good common sense approach to cleaning and protection.  Common sense....this site (as great as it is) could use some more of that.



No problem - I know many of the solvents say you can leave them in the bore, use as a lube, "cleans and protects", etc.  Don't do that - Just hose it out with a known harmless aerosol product (after ~ 30 minutes of cleaning/soaking with the solvent of course........Rem-Oil and CLP are two of the most readily available that come to mind - you can get at Wally World) with a tube that allows you to jet it right down the barrel (with the muzzle pointed into a trashcan of choice, which is what I do) for 5-10 sec., pass thru a couple dry patches and then pass thru with a patch soaked in your lube of choice if putting up for storage.

I've been doing this for going on 10-12 years with dozens of guns of all types (rifles, handguns, shotguns, even the mighty AR-50) with all common barrel materials and zero ill effects, while still getting a good cleaning.  

Plus, the cans of aerosol Rem-Oil or CLP make excellent lower action cleaners/washers and are great for blasting out Glock frames, Ruger .22 pistols, etc., after cleaning the dirtier spots with Hoppes.  Then just let dry sitting on a towel or speed the process hand drying yourself.

ETA:  Used to do this in the kitchen sink, then I remodeled the kitchen and sold the race car so the wife forced me to the basement, which I like better anyways.  Plus we have kids now and I don't want the solvents around them just yet.  Just spray into a trashcan as much as possible and empty when done, and GTG.
4/2/2010 11:14:47 AM EDT
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I've used a ton of stuff, and now I use KG cleaning products exclusively.

KG12 does wonders on barrels.  Thats what I use now to clean my BCM stainless, and it does a great job.
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