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Posted: 3/11/2009 12:51:54 PM EDT
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Well I was just curious as to which you all use to lube up your AR's. I pretty much lube all my handguns with grease but have been using CLP on my AR since I've had it. I'm not really looking for brand x vs brand y here...plenty of those posts. I'm just wondering on what you all prefer as well as what parts you use grease on versus oil.
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I can’t remember what it’s called but a friend who is a car dealer tech gave me bottle of this stuff that looks like gold-ish Ati Seize. The “liquid” is to reduce brake squeal by putting it between the pistons and brake pads. I have bee using it to lube my dry clutches I My Ducati race bikes. The two Corse (Factory race team parts) run on ramps against ach other ad don’t have the ball bearings that the “street” clutches have. Every time I downshift the anodized aluminum rubs against each other. When they go dry the clutch can lock open and that is not fun. Everything I have ever tried to lube the ramps with got thrown out of the clutch in short order because of centrifugal force. I was rebuilding the clutch between every race. With that brake stuff in there I only rebuild the clutch every 6 weekends or so and it has stopped rubbing the anodizing away. It doesn’t get slung out of the clutch either. It’s also rated for some very high temps.
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This guy probably shoots more then all of us put together and he reccomends grease: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXIsKEHo-4g If you are in a class environment with good weather it should work fine. He did not show the condition of the weapon after firing 2K rounds with grease. 
If you have a lubrication failure with grease you have to strip the weapon and use a dedicated cleaner to get it off, and then re lube with grease. With a CLP product you can squirt some in the weapon and most likely get the weapon running again, without dis-assembly. |
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This guy probably shoots more then all of us put together and he reccomends grease: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXIsKEHo-4g If you are in a class environment with good weather it should work fine. He did not show the condition of the weapon after firing 2K rounds with grease.
If you have a lubrication failure with grease you have to strip the weapon and use a dedicated cleaner to get it off, and then re lube with grease. With a CLP product you can squirt some in the weapon and most likely get the weapon running again, without dis-assembly. I agree with you 100%.....just thought I'd put up his video for another perspective. 
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I use CLP or Slip2000 EWL on everything. On the four rails on the carrier and the cam pin, I do lightly use a light layer of Slip2000 grease. I just did this through the 3 day Carbine II class Magpul Dynamics put on and found that the grease did not collect any more carbon than any other part in the upper. Halfway through Day 2 I squirted a couple of drops of the EWL in the gas ports of the carrier, nothing else. I did not have a single FTE or FTF for the duration of the class.
Of course, YMMV. I live and work in a dusty environment with temperature extremes and found the combination of lube and grease works well for me. |
I prefer a ''thin'' layer of grease....every time i clean and lube a gun with clp,rem oil.or the like. ill put it away in the safe....and its always bone dry when i pull it out...so i use high quality high temp grease on my actions and save the clp for the barrels.as for carbon buildup on the grease and supposedly collecting dust...if you shoot 1000 rounds in extremely dusty conditions your gonna get both anyway! and from my experience its harder to clean carbon off an oiled action than a greased one just my two cents....and who in there right mind wouldnt clean after a day like that anyway?????????
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| Grease definitely has it's place in the AR platform, but it won't entirely replace an oil lube. I use grease on the Cam pin and carrier rails. Mobile 1 on the bolt. CLP works great for post shoot soaking to soften up the carbon, but CLP really doesn't hold up as well for bolt lube, and it definitely doesn't cut it in the cam pin area. |
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This guy probably shoots more then all of us put together and he reccomends grease: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXIsKEHo-4g If you are in a class environment with good weather it should work fine. He did not show the condition of the weapon after firing 2K rounds with grease.
If you have a lubrication failure with grease you have to strip the weapon and use a dedicated cleaner to get it off, and then re lube with grease. With a CLP product you can squirt some in the weapon and most likely get the weapon running again, without dis-assembly. I use grease and have had very good experiences with it - including taking classes with very high round counts in rain, dust, high humidity and everywhere in-between. I have shot in -15F with grease-lubed ARs as well without any weapon issues (the shooter on the other hand...  )
I have yet to see a "lubrication failure" with grease and would be very interested to have someone present one. The grease stays put and continues to lubricate. It doesn't "cook off" like oil/clp and if you're really worried about the gun staying lubed, and have your doubts about grease, then keep a bottle of CLP / oil and squeeze it into the Bolt carrier holes IF it starts to slow down. 
Larry Vickers on Weapon Lubrication He speaks highly of grease (TW25B specifically) but also likes Militec for a "wet lube" I think Vickers' advice is worth listening to: "The golden rule in weapons lubricant is you can run a gun dirty and wet, but not dirty and dry." Stay safe, Mike |
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