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Posted: 8/16/2008 8:28:24 PM EDT
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Realistically, my gun will probably never see a combat situation. It sees a few hundred rounds and the range at a time and then gets babied with Quibs OMS bath method. I could probably use any lube and my gun would be fine, BUT.... A shooting buddy gave me a bottle of Militech. After getting out of the sandbox, he swears by it and has nothing but scorn for CLP. Anyone use this stuff, and if so, what do you think about it. |
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Hmmm.... must be what the second week of the month again? Search. This crap comes up like every couple months, then there is an argument about it, people defend it and use an article from Pat Rogers, other condemn it. Including myself, as it doesn't do shit for preventing rust or peventing fouling buildup, nor does it do shit for cleaning. None of the things their advertising claims, regardless of application method. But supposedly it's a good lube, as if anyone here really has the test equipment to test those claims out. The only published test result for it is that stupid spinning rod thing where you pull on the lever until the rod is stopped, then the amount of force is noted. Big fucking deal, household bleach will do better than most lubes on that test. |
Hmmmm. I did run a search. Only thing that comes up is my post.....Go ahead, try it. |
Because you spelled it wrong..........militec is the correct spelling. The stuff is pure junk and nothing more then snake oil. |
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it is not snake oil. it is not a myth. the stuff is a good lube. PERIOD. it is not advertised as a cleaner or a preservative. (or at least it wasn't when i bought it)... the big selling point was that even without the bolt/carrier being visibly wet or wet to the touch, the product conditioned the metal (similar to the claims of most major synthetic motor oils). this was a "plus" in the dusty desert environment where fine sand would stick to over oiled parts... i've done the "heat treating" method, and found that even DRY... my MT6400C ran flawlessly (then again its a Colt, so i could spit on the BCG and run a few thousand rounds through it and it would work 100%...  koolaid yum yum)i don't even know where my bottle of militec is anymore... i use CLP for cleaning and maintenance... also before a range session lubing with CLP makes routine cleanup a bit easier since the solvent portion helps keep carbon build up to a minimum... for storage or slide rails on my handguns, i like the LP product which is a bit thicker and tends to stay put... although if i decided not to clean up after a range session, the CLP will continue to break down carbon in storage so a quick wipe down before the next outing gets MOST of the carbon out of the gun... |
Everything is from this link. So click here. Their own website as it's been for a few years. It's been advertised as such since they first started selling it as a gun lube as well as an engine oil additive. First in the Washington, DC area as they were/are based in Arlington, VA. They worked hard to get it sold at the gas station on Ft. Myer. I first saw their advertising for it in 1996, so this is nothing new.
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I don't have time to argue this but if you read up on Militec it has been talked about a lot on here. They flat out lie about their product and have been proven to be frauds. Militec is 100% pure garbage and there are several far superior oils on the market. |
lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I don't see where it does anything that can't be done just as well with Break-Free CLP or LP. I use Break-Free CLP for my regular firearm maintenance needs. The stuff works. If you need a special purpose lubricant for extreme conditions, my opinion is that dry lubes like those sold by Sentry Solutions are the way to go. I used Sentry Solutions' Smooth Kote on my rifle for lubrication and rust prevention in place of CLP when I took it to a location that was 500 feet away from an ocean. Other metal items at the location (door locks and other hardware) were badly corroded without having been directly exposed to saltwater at all. The corrosion on the door locks was so bad that they barely worked. The rifle in question is blued, which as we all know does not resist rust well at all. My rifle was in this environment for a week. I detected no signs of rust and no loss of lubrication. |
the only bottle i ever used i got like 6 years ago, as i said it worked fine as a lube, but now i use breakfree CLP and LP, and i have no idea where my bottle of militec went |
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My own experience with Miltech is this: I live in a very humid part of Florida. My daily carry is a CZ-100 in .40 Short and Weak. When I first got the pistol, I lubed it with Militech, both the oil on all surfaces, and the grease on the trigger contact points. This CZ has been in a leather holster every day, either on my body, in a briefcase, or on a shelf in my den for the past five or so years. This CZ has not shown a single hint of rust or exposure to the elements in all the years I've owned it. As lubes go, it's certainly neither much better or worse than any other gun oil on the planet. It lubes a gun properly. Bottom line for me is, it's not any kind of wonder-cure for guns, nor is it the corrosion-magnet that some portray it to be. It's just a funny-colored gun oil... |
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I got a bottle of snake oil too. Its called 'mil-comm mc3000' and they have another product called tw-25b which is like grease. Its an expensive bottle, I think the lube contains teflon or something similar in it. I use it on the slide rails of my carry pistol, and it is an excellent lubricant for that purpose. You really notice the difference it makes when compared with lighter lubricants. When it comes to the AR though, CLP and forget. |
I live in hawaii and our range is right on the ocean.. I have been using CLP and no rust at all.. same goes for my AK and M700.. I know alot about rust living in hawaii cuz pretty much everything rusts here, it sucks.. |
Good to know. Overall, I've been pretty impressed with CLP. |
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There are no independent tests that show Militec is a good product or that it meets any superior performance standard. The only test results you will find are on Militec's own websites. Instead of producing test results that show their product is better than CLP they use anecdotal evidence. I despise Militec's marketing practices. They try to shame the US government into purchasing their product and claim that soldiers are being killed because they can't get it. Have you seen the list of websites that Militec uses to market its products? Some are just plain misleading. milspecclp.com armymaterielcommand.com defenselogisticsagency.com adaptivemoleculartechnologies.com rifleoil.com firearmslubricant.com weaponsgrease.com handgunoil.com gungrease.com gunlubes.com geargrease.com weaponsoil.com weaponlubrication.com weaponlubricant.com weaponslubricant.com metalconditioner.com smallarmslubricant.com antifricton.com synthetic-based-metal-conditioner.com militecthailand.com militec-1singapore.com thermaltek.com.au militecindonesia.com |
Well, if you're in the military and been sent somewhere you're AR is not just a toy taking up space in your safe, chances are you have used both. I used militec in Iraq and have about a half-gallon of it in my basement. Here in the U.S. I use CLP. |
BTDT, and Militec-1 is stil a shit product. |
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