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Posted: 1/23/2008 5:09:57 PM EDT
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I have a nice Brownells gift certificate that I'd like to use on some nice coated Dewey rods. I'm just a little overwhelmed by all the options available. Do I get the 22c-24 and just pull it from the bore to the muzzle on a 20 inch AR? Should I get the 22c-36 and push from the bore out? what muzzle/bore guide should i get? They even have "service rifle" coated rods to choose from, and I'm not sure what type of jags or loops I need. Any and all advice appreciated. I just want to do it right without wrecking my bore.... |
| Suggest you take a look at Sinclair International which is a Brownells Company. They carry the Dewey rods and bore guides and stops and the on-line pictures may be a little better than the Brownells catalog. At least the stuff is easier to find in the Sinclair catalog. If you get a rod guide, make sure the Dewey rod is long enough to include the rod guide. Also, Sinclair has an attachment to the rod guide for a few dollars which allows you to put the cleaning solvent/oil/whatever on the patch without slobbering it all over the action. |
Thanks for the tip, the pictures and descriptions are a lot better there. Hopefully they'll take my gift certificate too. Dewey's own website is also pretty light on the details of their products. The best part is that this is only half of the issue for me. I also have a Garand that I'm looking to outfit with a nice cleaning setup. At least its action makes the pull-through method the only way... Maybe Quib will show up with some thoughts/solutions... |
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On the service rifle length rods I think those are the female threaded ends. I use those, but the poly coating near the end seams to chip off quick but only for a little bit. I dont mind the little bit of chip as it keeps me from using a gender changer. I've herd and saw some older dewey rods that use the male threaded end that show zero signs of the poly coatting chiping off. I push my rod bore to muzzel. I use a dewybore guide. I use both dewy spear type jags and loops. I never used the parker hale type jag. Loops are great for applying solvent and final oil coat for bores. Jags are great for pushing all the crap out of the bore. |
I'll try to not let it affect my opinion of you as the gun cleaning shrine of all-knowledge  Thanks for all your work here. I've learned a lot from reading your other posts. |
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And please.........I'm far from a "shrine of all-knowledge". I'm just passing along info. 
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(1) Get a bore guide. (2) Get a rod long enough to extend from the bore guide (which will be sticking out the back of the receiver) to the end of your muzzle device. For a 20" barrel, you'll need a pretty long rod. You want to be able to remove the patch from your jag (3) Get a Bore Tech. Nicer than Dewey IMHO. Handle is more comfortable and it uses better bearings. (4) Make sure you get a bore guide. |
Jmart just posted the best answer. I like the Bore-Stay bore guide. I dont have the exact rod length demensions on hand, but factor in the length of your barrel including flash hider and the length of the reciever when you order the rods. I only use the Dewey jags to push patches down the bore and out the muzzle end. |
| Buy the Dewey 22-36 rod with external threads. They come with an adapter, which is made of brass. These are much like a graphite fishing rod. The one specifically listed for an AR15/M16 is like a 30" with internal threads and is a steel rod with a heavy coat of paint, which as stated earlier chips away on the end of the rod; at the throat of chamber in my opinion, and that is not good. You will need to buy at least one brass, plastic or steel patch holder. I like the brass ones for everyday use, but they are not good if you have to clean up a heavily fouled barrel with one of the higher ammonia concentrated cleaners as they will eat the brass tip as well. |
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I own about a dozen Dewey rods for various calibers and cartridges including the AR-15. I *highly* recommend you get the: 20C 32 .20 Cal - .22 rimfire 32’’ This is a 32" rod which is long enough for a 20" SR barrel with a bore guide. It is designed for 20cal bores (or .22cal rimfire). Forget the included jag and get a Pro-Shot 20cal jag. The reason why I recommend the 20cal rod and jag is because pretty much all the 22cal jags I have used with 1-1/8" patches are just way too tight. You could probably go smaller on the patches, but I think the patches end up being useless in a 22cal (.223/5.56) bore. As far as brushes, get a standard 22cal rod. Note that 20cal and 22cal rods use different threads for the attachments, so you can't just stick a 22cal brush on a 20cal rod. I currently use a 20CM32 Dewey with a Pro-Shot 20cal jag for patches and a 22CM36 Dewey for brushing the AR-15. I have the Sinclair delrin bore guide and the Lucas Bore Guide for the AR-15. Some may argue against my recommendations, but this setup works great for me. I clean a lot because I clean after ever range session or match, and I basically shoot every weekend for practice or at a High Power XTC match. |
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Also, most of the Dewey rods are male threaded with an adapter to accept standard male threaded attachments (jags, brushes, and mops). The "service rifle" rods that Dewey sells for the 22 and 30 cal (M1/M14/M16) are female threaded. I advise against using these rods. The reason being is that the coating tends to wear out very quickly on the end of the rod. The rod shouldn't be hitting your bore, but it will definitely rub or impact your bore guide (chamber or muzzle). The standard male threaded Dewey rods with the female adapter gets longer life in the coating at the threaded end because the female adapter is brass and takes any impact that may occur when the rod goes into bore. I have a Dewey 30CF25 that I use to clean my Garands with and the coating is very beat on that rod. |
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