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Posted: 11/26/2007 8:40:34 PM EDT
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I need a one piece cleaning rod for ar15 223 (bronze or coated with something softer than my barrel) I also need a bore guide, BF CLP and LP. I can't seem to find a website with all these products so I can save on shipping. Good prices are a plus. I can't decide if I want a regular cleaning rod or a jag rod. Which do you think is better? Thanks. |
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I am also looking for a good cleaning rod, but I think stainless is the way to go, being that generally softer materials, such as brass and aluminum are more likely to hold grit/abrasives. but i guess if you use a bore guide then this should be a non issue. Brownells has alot of cleaning supplies, but i don't know if they have CLP Edited: Just checked the above link. go with midway that place is awesome. |
I know I'm checking them out now. What do you think about Carbon Fiber Rods? Good or no good? Thanks. |
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I use a Dewey rod to clean our rental guns. I really like the ball bearing handle, it allows the brush or patch to spin with the rifling. If you are going to choose a Dewey, make sure you get the correct thread for your particular application. They are available in male or female threads. A quick thumbs up for Midway...I have been a customer for many years. They are great, not always the cheapest, but fair. They also generally ship very quickly. |
Temp, my guess it would do the same, but a bullet makes full bore contact. A rod may only hit in certain flex points down the bore. Odds are your barrel will be shot out before you see the potentail damage from using an al rod. Unless of course you use churn butter methods for cleaning. |
Rods are often exposed to more abrasive environments than a dirty bore. The correct analogy would be dragging ammo through sand. Keep ammo clean. Normal bore "dirt" from firing is no more abrasive than the bullets themselves. Now for the carbon rods, I have a Tipton and it has been very durable. My Deweys always chip around the tip. Tiptons do have a brass tip though...I keep mine boxed to keep that clean. I know someone that had the handle fall off his Dewey, a BRAND NEW ROD! Tipton's are a far better handle. And carbon fiber is stiffer, giving a better feel. |
Yep, my point exactly. The amount of force that a person puts on a cleaning rod is nothing compared to what a bullet does. And for those that do not know, the .00001" thick aluminum oxide that forms on the surface of the rod (famed for being abrasive) is amorphous, not the abrasive crystalline type. And last I checked, plastic is softer than Aluminum or Brass so it would be that much easier to embed abrasive materials in it.
If you drag your cleaning stuff through dirt, and immediately clean with it (as opposed to wiping it off), then you get what you deserve. Simply wipe the rod before and during use. |
No, I have SEEN IT. Some old Win M52s in the high school armory, used for JROTC target practice in the basement had nearly nothing left at the muzzle. The cadre were militant on cleaning after each session and they used brass rods. You could drop a .22 LR round up to the brass in the muzzle. |
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