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Posted: 11/26/2007 3:18:25 PM EDT
| Seems I remember that someone was saying that Breakfree said it's cleaner was suitable for cleaning gas auto's, and others said differently. I just happened to check the patent numbers on some Breakfree I just got and it is the same as a can of Outers foaming bore cleaner that I have. I think they all may be made by the same outfit, just different names on the can. |
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Are you sure it was Outers brand Foam Bore Cleaner? After some research online I see that the Break-Free FBC and the Gunslick FBC have the same patent number. They even share the identical container. But I couldn’t find info on the Outers patent number. If BF FBC and Gunslick FBC are actually the same product, I just might have to buy which ever brand happens to be cheaper! Next time I see a can of the Outers FBC I’ll make note of the patent number and look into this some more. Thanks for bringing this up! 
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Are they? I’ll be looking into this more as I get time. Maybe send out some emails depending on what I find out. |
Definately be sure the chems are safe for chrome bores. If the instructions say to let the bore soak, be sure it is safe. I use MPRO-7. It works so well I bought a gallon and have no desire to find any other product. You would do yourself a huge favor to buy a 4oz sample and give it a try. It has no smell and cuts carbon, grease, and crud amazingly well. |
www.break-free.com/?location=/products/index.asp |
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now what i find funny is if BF and GunSlick are the same. BF say GO on semi autos. Gunslick say NO GO. I've used Gunslick on my M1A and ar with no problems to date. BTW Household bleach pH 12.5 pH info |
Well, my BF FBC where ever or who ever made it , cleans everything from the barrel.www.break-free.com/?location=/main.asp |
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this is what I do Spary gunslick in barrel, let sit while I clean rest of rifle. Run a bore bursh down the barrel a few passes. Dry patch (usally 3 to 4 patches). Look at bore how clean is it? IF clean enough I run two oil soaked patches of WS CLP down the bore and re call it good. Sometimes I'll run two cycles of GunSSlick down the bore, but this is rare. I only use 100% cotton double nape flannel patches, and bore brushes that are usgi or dewey. I use jags for pushing patches out the bore and a loop for applying oil. |
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Sounds like you just have a really nasty barrel and the FBC was doing it‘s job. Has your barrel been cleaned good in the past? What was your previous cleaner used? FBC will not produce wonders with a neglected barrel. I have never experienced the trouble your having. |
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If you use a bronze bore brush to mix up the gunslick and powder residue. it will take a lot less patches. And no there is a slight trace of black on the patch when I am done. I don't have the tiome to get the rifle white glove clean. I'll clean it untill it is eggshell. All my ammo has been LC or Fed which burn clean. |
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Beachhair234, you might take a look at this thread. www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=7&t=352876 |
Gregory, do you think he might be experiencing these problems because the Gunslick is attacking his bore brush? Maybe he should try a plastic bristled brush if he wishes to scrub while the foam is still in the bore. I let the FBC do it’s job with out brushing, and save the bore brush for use with the CLP. |
| Hmm. Excellent info. Maybe its because I am anal. While I don't patch until its completely white I do patch to where there isn't any grey/black whatsoever. My buddy does a lot of long range sniper competitions and no one uses brushes due to accuracy concerns. So I'm a little afraid of using a brush. Also, should I be worried that the foam comes out of the gas tube? I let it sit muzzle down for about an hour afterwards to try to get it to drain. |
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What ever Gunslick uses for the copper remover is slow acting. The little amount of time the brush stays in the bore has little effect on any blue you see. As posted brushes are optional as you can wait for the chemical to lift the stuff. This is of course having washed the brush down before hand so it is clean. You try this fill the bore with GS wait 1/2 hour then re fill the bore and wait 1/4 hour and then patch out the bore. I use the brush just to speed things up a bit. On one rifle I have no choice but to use a brush if I want all the crap removed. Yeah solvents alone will do it, but I don't have the time watting for then to soak in and lift. |
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Tried the Break Free foaming bore cleaner on three 20" uppers last weekend, with out brushing (was cleaning up the shop for winter and was a good time to try "self cleaning ;-). After several applications with 15 minutes between each and running patches through after each cycle to clean up. The foaming bore cleaner worked ok on the cleaner uppers and not so good on the dirty upper (loaned to a friend and he was busy building me an AK, so I cleaned the upper). Ended up going back to cycling between Kroil oil on a bronze brush, soak, patch wet, dry and then repeat as need and/or the same with Hoppie's No 9 ... and got a fair amount more dirt out with a far amount more effort. Also use Mpro7, with good luck but in this case was letting the Kroil soak for a long time when busy with other projects or work. |
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