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Posted: 12/23/2006 7:15:17 PM EDT
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I have been using Breakfree CLP every since I bought my AR's. I use it to clean and lube my stuff (hence the name Clean, Lube, etc.) Anyway, it works great and from what I understand is one of the best corrosion resistant lubes you can buy. The problem I have is that it seems like it dries up rather quickly.  Has anyone else noticed this, and if so does anyone use any other lube that seems to stay "wet" longer? |
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clp will last about month in normal storage conditions. Fp-10 lasts a little bit longer. BF CLP is a little bit better at rust prevent. Now I have never had a firearm rust when I reapplied fp-10 or clp in a 30 day cycle. It was when I slipped that rust was an issue. ezzox you can slip for years if applied per instructions. it is a real PIA but rust prevent is rather high. |
+1 The drying issue,and the fact I wanted a better lube is why I switched from Break Free to FP-10 for a CLP type product.The FP-10 does better at both than the Break Free IMHO,and is why I love the stuff so. As for the PM mentioned by GregoryK...I have had the same experience and is what I follow.All my weapons get PM once a month regardless of use,storage or what lube is used.No issues/corrosion to report. |
| BF CLP is the only stuff I use now. I never had a problem of drying it up, but in any case prior to my range session I do put drop or two of it... As for FP-10, last year, my Rem-700 got rusted before my eyes in a matter of 0.5 hour in a light rain after GENEROUS application of it. Also, I had noted that this stuff (FP-10) turns bright yellow if wiped with a patch after about month of firearm storage in the safe, don't know what is it. As I stated earlier, I have about 12 Oz of FP-10 in original 16 Oz bottle and will gladly trade it for an equal amount of BF CLP or less...FP-10 fans - IM me for the best deal. |
I disagree with that. I find it dries up quick and my rifle will run into problems if I let it dry up. I like regular lube on moving parts. |
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CLP sucks dogballs, always has. I never beleived in a "3-in-one" solution because it's bullshit. You CANNOT have a lubricant and cleaner together, they are polar opposites. Lemme say this again, to stir the CLPKoolaide heads.... CLP is SHIT.  I much prefer a solid cleaning with Blue Wonder( My preferred cleaning agent) Hoppes#9 or Butch's, or even Sweet's 762, then a light coat of Blue Wonder Lube or, in second place, Militech1, let it set for an hour and then wipe off the excess, This regime kept my weapons ready for a year in baghdad, and does just fine here. 
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im a newbie and i know this, lmao
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Well I'd take you up on that deal,but Ive already got a couple cases of the FP-10 on hand...needless to say I don't need anymore...much less some that ain't working properly.Not to mention the fact I get the FP-10 at dealer price buying in bulk.So what you offer is not such a good deal for me.. Sounds like you must have got a bad batch of the stuff.In the 5+ years of using the FP-10 in all sorts of weather I have yet to see what happened to your Remington with any kinda lube Ive used including WD40.Rather humid here most of the year too. Now considering the fact that I have found it takes longer than a couple hours for bare metal to rust in normal damp conditions.My finding is that rust is formed when the moisture is evaporated from the surface of the metal. Im not doubting your word or experience,nor am I attempting to flame you,but I think I'd call MPC and get a refund under thier customer service policy.Im sure they would like to hear about your rust episode either way. As to the color of the oil after short term exposure...I'd say your seeing the base oil starting to decompose somewhat...if you notice the next time you clean your weapon BF tends to turn a brownish-green color once its been exposed to the environment after a few weeks. If you look at the FP-10 straight out of the bottle its a yellowish red color to start with. Im not real sure whats up with your jug of FP-10,but in my experience you are seeing something that I have not.Again I'd call MPC and complain as well as get a refund...the 1-800# is on your bottle.They are very nice folks at MPC and will make you happy if given the chance. |
This bottle was purchased several years back when G. Fennel (?) was a company owner. In any case I will not bother to "get the record straight" with the MPC over several bucks, but on the other hand I do believe that if "bad batch" happens, than the product recall is in place. Any respectful company with QC procedures in place should have samples of their product in storage and analyzed, and should notify their customers in event of mishap if the product was purchased DIRECTLY from them. On a side note, if you read Shooters Choice FP-10 bottle's instructions, you will note that it is stated that you should use Shooters Choice "Rust Inhibitor" after FP-10 application - this alone tells a lot about FP-10 "preservation" ability. Also, to set the record straight, you are right, the rust had formed after / during water had evaporated from metal surface and it took indeed more then 0.5 hour but les then an hour. |
Does the stuff deteriorate with age? Does it separate out? About the SC instructions, SC markets FP-10 as a lube only. If they acknowledged it preserved as well they couldn't market their Rust Protector product. Just like they don't market FP-10's cleaning capabilities because that then would make it harder to market their MC-7 cleaner. |
| I didn't read through all of the posts, but if you want a product similar to the one you're using now try CorrosionX. It's a spray like Breakfree but will stay wet w/o gumming up everything. Personally, I use Eezox on my Glocks and AR, but on my others I use the cheaper priced CorrosionX Aviation. While I'll always prefer Eezox, and will use it on my duty type firearms, for $12.50/can you can't beat the CorrosionX. |
+1 Hoppes #9 to clean, Mil Comm MC2500 or TW25B to lube. |
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CLP was the most unimpressive oil I have ever used. Sorry. Didn't clean well, does nothing for copper and is dry when you need it during shooting or for storage. Bought one bottle, won't buy another. FP10 was a little better at being there, but not much. Again, bought one bottle and moved on. Currently, I am using Mobile 1. Does not evap, no running (unless it is globbed on). Havent used it long enough to test its long term storage, but frankly for long term (over 1 month) I use RIG anyway. Bought some Dulite Quickseal online at Midway to test it. It does 'dry' but to a film that I can feel. It's there but it is not runny or really oily, but slick, not like CLP which was just plain gone. My ARs so far have run fine with it and it does not attract the blowing sand we get out here in SO Cal. It's a winner for summer use when the grit of the Mojave gets into everything. |
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I just grabbed the spare bottle I kept in the back of my truck to try it and it worked well. 5-30. Now I have a dedicated bottle in my cleaning box. Maybe straight 30 would be better, donno. But the 5-30 works fine in the AR and my Colt 1911. |
Interesting, I might give that a try - thanks for the tip! 
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In all fairness CLP seems to be a pretty good corrosion preventative. http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html The lubrication tests I've seen usually put it pretty average, above remoil I believe. I still use hoppes for heavy cleaning and sweets for copper, but as far as calling CLP shit...well I don't know. |
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