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11/29/2006 8:34:20 PM EDT
Hello,

I'm new to the AR15 and I was wondering if anyone has used this product? If so, do you soak it with Hoppes (or other cleaning liquid) then run it through the barrel? (I believe from receiver to muzzle) About how many times do you run this through (say on a fairly new barrel) Thanks in advance for the opinions and input!

Oh another thing....CLP...I understand that's cleaner, lube, and protectant....but is there a specific one you guys prefer? Thanks again!

Infinite1
11/29/2006 9:18:08 PM EDT
[#1]
I’m an old fashioned guy when it comes to weapons cleaning, so I can’t answer on the bore snake question.

As far as CLP goes, I use the tried n’ true Break-Free CLP.

Break-Free®
11/29/2006 11:14:16 PM EDT
[#2]
Bore Snakes do not realy clean that good at all. I use to use them before I knew about dewy rods. A good rod and brush with a good solvent will get the metal fouling out that the bore snake can't touch.

Boresnakes can't get the fouling that is "pressed" into the bore. Only a rod and brush can.
11/30/2006 3:25:39 AM EDT
[#3]
A rod and butches bore shine. Let the solvent do the work, no brush required. All the brush does is speed up the cleaning process as your using mechincal action and chemical action to remove the metal.
11/30/2006 3:35:51 AM EDT
[#4]
I haven't used one on my AR, but I have used it on my non-rifled shotgun barrel and it works well there, but I still have a 12 gauge push and a brush too .

On my AR barrel I use a plug and sometimes a brush like all the other posts, with CLP as final lube and rust preventative.
11/30/2006 7:51:03 AM EDT
[#5]
I have one . I run a few patchs wet with shooters choice thru the barrel, let it sit a little bit then run the bore snake thru dry. it seems to work ok. I run it thru about three or four times. Then i shoot some breakfree in the barrel and run the boresnake thru once to leave a coating in the bore. It looks nice and shiny. i also run a brush thru the bore every once in a while just for good luck.
11/30/2006 5:02:36 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Bore Snakes do not realy clean that good at all. I use to use them before I knew about dewy rods. A good rod and brush with a good solvent will get the metal fouling out that the bore snake can't touch.

Boresnakes can't get the fouling that is "pressed" into the bore. Only a rod and brush can.


Is the Otis Cable as good as the Rod???
Who has best prices on Dewy Rods??
11/30/2006 6:30:24 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Bore Snakes do not realy clean that good at all. I use to use them before I knew about dewy rods. A good rod and brush with a good solvent will get the metal fouling out that the bore snake can't touch.

Boresnakes can't get the fouling that is "pressed" into the bore. Only a rod and brush can.


Is the Otis Cable as good as the Rod???
Who has best prices on Dewy Rods??


In the field yes at home on the bench no. Otis can not touch a Dewy Rod. Using a good rod, jags, brushes and good solvents are the only way to remove 100% of the fouling in the bore.
A Bore snake will make the bore look clean and like a mirror but if you then hit it with a rod and bursh with a good slovent like MC-25 or Slip 2000 725 you will get a black patch out loaded with fouling. Repeat will you have a white patch after you brush and then you know the bore is clean.
11/30/2006 6:40:33 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Hello,

I'm new to the AR15 and I was wondering if anyone has used this product? If so, do you soak it with Hoppes (or other cleaning liquid) then run it through the barrel? (I believe from receiver to muzzle) About how many times do you run this through (say on a fairly new barrel) Thanks in advance for the opinions and input!

Oh another thing....CLP...I understand that's cleaner, lube, and protectant....but is there a specific one you guys prefer? Thanks again!

Infinite1


I actually put a few drops of CLP on the brush part of the 'snake, and a little beyond it too, then run it through a couple of times (breech to muzzle).

I do this right after shooting, before leaving the range.

I don't consider it a full cleaning. Every few hundred rounds it gets cleaned the conventional way.

As far as CLP goes, they are all pretty much the same -- whatever you can get easily.
11/30/2006 6:41:37 PM EDT
[#9]


Intersting.  I've always been a rod & brush guy, but I just picked up a couple of bore snakes for a couple of my "no breech access" rifles, a 10/22 and a Marlin 336.

Haven't tried them yet.

11/30/2006 7:44:16 PM EDT
[#10]
Wow...A lot of different and great point of views on here....Thanks guys! I'm still undecided on whether or not to get the bore snake...but from what most of you have said it seems the rod and brush method is the best so I may stick with that....As far as CLP i think Hoppes is fairly inexpensive...what are ya'lls opinions on that?
11/30/2006 9:16:56 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Wow...A lot of different and great point of views on here....Thanks guys! I'm still undecided on whether or not to get the bore snake...but from what most of you have said it seems the rod and brush method is the best so I may stick with that....As far as CLP i think Hoppes is fairly inexpensive...what are ya'lls opinions on that?


I like the Bore Brush for quick cleanings in the field or at the range.  Gets the big stuff out, and makes it a bit easier for the detailed cleaning later on.

Hoppes isn't a CLP.  It's just a basic lubricating oil.  Not terrible lube, but not as good IMO as some of the other offerings.  It does give rust protection of course, like all oils.  Again just not as good as others.
Break Free is a good lube, very good rust preventative, and an ok cleaner.  It's also not that expensive.  Good for lubing, and rust prevention, and for cleaning at the range, in the field, or for light touchups.  I like an actual solvent for cleaning though.
12/1/2006 6:22:10 AM EDT
[#12]
Boresnakes work great...unless you wanna eat off of your barrel....i have been using them for years...no problems....watch out for the otis pull throughs....the patches are a bummer if you get one stuck...sometimes my boresnake won't drop through unless i run a wet patch first...

fred

i put clp in front of the brushes and a drop or two of oil behind them...
12/2/2006 9:27:57 AM EDT
[#13]
In the field I use the bore snake.  I generally run it through when I'm done shooting just to clean out the crud.  I use it on rifles pistols and shotguns.  I generally go from breach to muzzle but if you run it once the other way and let is drop out through the mag well you can get the ramps as well.  However, I don't consider this a cleaning.  Kind of like "dusting" with a dry paper towel.

For cleaning I generally use CLP if it's cold out and I'm working in the house.  Otherwise I'm in the shed with hoppe's as the cleaner and then CLP to lube.  I also use Butches Bore Shine if I looking to do a real detailed cleaning to get the copper out.  I've also used some stuff called "barnes" (I think that as what it is) that I like as well.  Just picked up some foaming cleaner the other day and I'm going to give that a shot to see how it does.

Hope this helps
Brett
12/4/2006 6:25:59 PM EDT
[#14]
hi i am new to the board but not new to shooting...
i really like the boresnake i use it at the range for my AR and my pistols.
before i shoot i always run it through to pick up any extra oil or any obstructions
then i run it through when i am done shooting.... i seldom use any solvents on the bore snake.

i do my main cleaning with a rod and patches but i use" Hoppes elite" cleaner i havent seen it mentioned here but then again i am not a cash memeber so i cant go into the archives. Hoppes elite  is a Mpro 7 based cleaner... but they have added some oil to it so it doesnt dry out the metal like mpro 7 (so i have been told).... i use the spray and the bore gel... the product gets down into the molecular structure of the metal and makes subsequent cleaning much easier... any new firearm i get gets a good cleaning with the "hoppes elite" and then a light coat of CLP of some sort. the nice thing about both Mpro-7 and hoppes elite... is there is no smell.... and they are non toxic.... hey
12/5/2006 2:24:37 PM EDT
[#15]
I use those also, JP...i can use them in the house without the odor...they seem to do the job...

fred
12/5/2006 3:44:27 PM EDT
[#16]
If you have a match barrel, I'd stay away from the snake. I dont think it will damage it if used properly but even if it does clean well, IF, how do you know if its clean? You really need to keep a good barrel clean and the patch tells you. I know the snake cleans like 160x more than a patch...maybe so. Maybe not. Its probably fine on a chrome barreled AR that isnt used for long range stuff. Just my opinion.
12/7/2006 5:08:56 PM EDT
[#17]
I used the Boresnake for the first time for the first cleaning of my new RRA Middy with a chrome lined barrel the other day. I sprayed CLP down the barrel and let it sit while I cleaned everything else. I then ran the Boresnake through about 5 times and it pretty much was spotless. I ran a CLP soaked patch throught the barrel and the patch was clean. I do have a cleaning kit on hand when the need for some serious cleaning arises.

I think the Boresnake is good to have irregardless if you use a brush and rod. It can be used to clean in between serious cleanings, such as when in the field or at the range, which will make cleaning easier in general. Sorry so long!
12/7/2006 5:23:35 PM EDT
[#18]
Thanks for the info guys keep em coming!!! I'm getting a new barrel for my AR that I'm building which will be my own "first owner" AR since the other I purchased from a good friend   So i'd like to keep it nice and shiny!
12/16/2006 12:23:17 PM EDT
[#19]
Great thread!  Very helpful to me as well.
12/16/2006 1:20:52 PM EDT
[#20]
Late on the chime in, but a borsnake is like washing your clothes in dirty water (they are cleaner than they started......) and Hoppes is fine. I really like the copper solvent about every 500 rounds.
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