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5/22/2006 7:24:16 PM EDT
i know im gonna get torched,but i need to find a better copper solvent,whats the BEST?Sweets7.62?i know.... im a dufus.h.gif
5/22/2006 10:48:49 PM EDT
[#1]
Here is a read from the boys who know what they are doing when it comes to a clean bore:

www.6mmbr.com/borecleaning.html
5/23/2006 2:26:04 AM EDT
[#2]
the deal is i have a 686 plus that has fairly heavy copper fouling.need some strong stuff to knock it out!thanks for input though!
5/23/2006 3:00:03 AM EDT
[#3]
Sweets7.62
5/23/2006 3:45:21 AM EDT
[#4]
With copper you have to give the stinky chemicals time to do their thing. I like to clean while watching TV, I wet down the bore (I have been useing Butches Bore Shine) and let it sit while I watch. I will go back every other commercial and brush,patch,recoat .I also like useing a nylon brush because a brass or bronze brush
will react with the cleaner and then you can't tell if the crud is comeing out of the bore or off the brush
5/23/2006 3:19:24 PM EDT
[#5]
Sweet's.  Use in a well ventilated area.  Don't drink it, no matter how drunk you get and how many times your friends dare you.
5/23/2006 3:45:48 PM EDT
[#6]
I plan to try this stuff soon-  The test results are very, very impressive and I haven't heard anything negative about it yet.



http://www.kgindustries.co.uk/  (click on pics at bottom for test results)

http://www.jarheadtop.com/KG-12_Test_Results.htm

https://wx9.registeredsite.com/user878351/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=cleenboreusa&Category_Code=KG
5/24/2006 10:53:17 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
I plan to try this stuff soon-  The test results are very, very impressive and I haven't heard anything negative about it yet.



http://www.kgindustries.co.uk/  (click on pics at bottom for test results)

http://www.jarheadtop.com/KG-12_Test_Results.htm

https://wx9.registeredsite.com/user878351/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=cleenboreusa&Category_Code=KG


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KG-12
5/24/2006 1:30:00 PM EDT
[#8]
Ive not ever used any on my Chrome lined AR15`s just CLP
5/24/2006 4:12:36 PM EDT
[#9]
I have a bottle of KG 12 idont see any thing coming out of my weapons,Sweets on the other hand rocks.I used it for the first time today on my 686 Plus coppered badly.within a few minutes while using Sweets it removed all of it.i am sold on sweets.followed sweets with Break free CLP to neutrlize.
5/24/2006 4:43:57 PM EDT
[#10]
Montana Arms, if I remember, makes a copper removed named 50-BMG. The best I've ever used.
5/24/2006 5:44:58 PM EDT
[#11]
When i run out of Sweets i may try some 50BMG Solvent>i read that it was STRONG!!
5/24/2006 5:57:37 PM EDT
[#12]
SLIP 2000
5/25/2006 3:05:01 PM EDT
[#13]
Over the years I've seen Butch's Bore Shine and Sweet's recommended repeatedly.
5/28/2006 3:03:58 PM EDT
[#14]
+ 1 On Butches Bore Shine ! headbang.gif
5/28/2006 3:24:07 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
+ 1 On Butches Bore Shine !



+2 on Butches.
5/28/2006 7:14:33 PM EDT
[#16]
I know that word has it that Hoppe's only takes care of carbon fouling, but if I run a patch through the barrel soaked with it, wait for 15 minutes, and then run a dry patch through it, that patch will come out very blue.  Does this mean that it is indeed removing some of the copper fouling?  I've used the Birchwood Casey stuff up to now.  Thanks!
5/29/2006 4:49:17 AM EDT
[#17]
BoreEliminator.  It is the best i have found.  
5/29/2006 11:34:53 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
I know that word has it that Hoppe's only takes care of carbon fouling, but if I run a patch through the barrel soaked with it, wait for 15 minutes, and then run a dry patch through it, that patch will come out very blue.  Does this mean that it is indeed removing some of the copper fouling?  I've used the Birchwood Casey stuff up to now.  Thanks!



Hoppe's No.9 does indeed remove copper fouling.  I find that using it keeps copper fouling to a minimum.  However, if I get a new-to-me used gun that has severe copper fouling, I'll use Sweet's 7.62 to remove it.  Sweet's is much stronger.
5/29/2006 11:38:25 AM EDT
[#19]
Ive been using Break Free bore cleaner foam, it seems to be removing any copper deposits as is evidenced by the blue on the first patch I run thru to swab that stuff out before I switch to nitro solvent and then CLP.
6/2/2006 5:03:57 PM EDT
[#20]
i am cleaning my oly for the first time right now with Sweets.I cant beleive the crap it is pulling out of my supposedly cleaned already rifle.not finished yet.hock.gif
6/3/2006 8:10:39 AM EDT
[#21]
Butches is some great stuff.  All the real high speed, $5,000 plus rifle, benchrest shooters at my range use it and swear by it.  

They first run 2-3 patches soaked with Kroil, let it sit for a minute, and then hit it with Butches.  They other day, I noticed every damn one of them used the same combination, so it must work well.  

Be careful not to get Butches on your hands though!
6/3/2006 9:35:30 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Butches is some great stuff.  All the real high speed, $5,000 plus rifle, benchrest shooters at my range use it and swear by it.  

They first run 2-3 patches soaked with Kroil, let it sit for a minute, and then hit it with Butches.  They other day, I noticed every damn one of them used the same combination, so it must work well.  

Be careful not to get Butches on your hands though!




why cant i get it on my hands?also i use shooters choice bore cleaner seems to do well for those times when i dont shoot alot.stinks like hell though!
6/3/2006 5:25:28 PM EDT
[#23]
I wouldn't think that use by benchrest shooters is much of a testimonial for a copper solvent.  They shoot super match grade barrels, hand lapped by master craftsmen and with bores exactly the diameter of the bullet.   They also shoot five rounds and clean before the barrel cools completely.  The Harts anf Kreigers that I have owned never copper fouled much, if any.  I do see why benchrest shooters would use Butch's.  It's a good solvent and any slight jacket fouling would be quikly dispatched. In my bores that copper foul badly, I didn't find Butch's to be "magic".   I gave the rest of the bottle to a friend with a hard fouling 22-250.  He had the same experience.  

If you don't like the smell of ammonia, try KB-17 gel from Sinclair.  It is slower than Sweet's. but it works.  Cleans the black powder residue from stainless guns too.

I have also found that most everything works better if you follow the insructions on the container.  And, don't mix solvents.  A friend couldn't get his shotgun barrel clean so I took a try.  I have every solvent/cleaner known to man and I tried them all without drying out the bore between solvents.  Suddenly, smoke startd rolling out the end of the barrel and it got so hot I had to set it down real quick.  Note to the recklessly curious and insane:  Don't try this just to see if I'm full of it.
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