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Posted: 5/17/2006 11:10:30 AM EDT
I hear alot of things about this CLP. Seems like it's the fix-all over in the troubleshooting forum. This may be old news but I always like to check out anythng I'm considering buying and I found this. link Makes you kinda wonder. I've always used Hoppes solvent and plain old gun oil.
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I'm no fan of Break Free type CLP, but if that is happening it is due to lack of maintenance/over lubing. Notice all the shameless references to Militec...should be a clue to the intent of the article. IMHO Militec is pure crap on guns and it goes nowhere near my stuff. Just get some FP10 and be done with it... 
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The clue for me is that the Army expects one fluid to do everything. It doesn't. Kind of like carrying a mid-size, full power, large bore, semi-auto with three applied safeties. It doesn't do any one thing well and does all things barely acceptably. Stick with the dedicated cleaners and lubricants and you won't go wrong. |
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Made the link hot, and a tag for later reading. www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=377 But just from quickly glancing over the article it seems they’re trying to blame weapons malfunctions on CLP when the true blame lays with improper weapons maintenance. |
Thanks, fortunately my 14 YO boy just showed me how to add a hot link... I feel so inadequate...and yes it does look like an ad for miltec. It also highlites the systems failures in desert enviroments. For such an ergonomically designed weapon, The fixes would be so simple and yet after 45 years were just barely getting to the piston upper...now what to do with the sand?
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CLP doesn't do evertything great, but it does do it all well. It works as acleaner well enough to get trainees with no access to anything better to pass their inspections. It works well enough as a lube that when it's actually used properly (as in weapons maintainance done frequently and properly) it works in places from Alaska to the deserts of Irak, to the rainforests of the Phillipines. And it prevents rust enough in places that are hot and humid, as well as salty, South Florida, Phillipines, all over South America. It's not the be all, end all, but it's not crap either. It's actually a pretty good lube. I've seen testing for other products, and it comes out better in some types of tests then lube only oils like Hoppes. |
.Been floating around for a long time.Personally Im sick to death of reading it.
I think what the Marine was saying was that the CLP should be used sparingly, NOT that it should be flat out avoided. The author was either trying to convolute his statement, or he simply misunderstood what the Marine meant. |
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I appreciate all of the opinions here. I assumed this was something that has been around awhile and the real purpose other than having some feeding problems on a new build and sorting out the cause was as stated, It seems to be touted as the fix-all for every operational problem and I was beginning to feel like some of the mods here were reps for Breakfree. No disrespect intended but is this stuff that good? I'm gathering not. Plain old generic gun oil has always worked fine for me. Is there an opinion here that Breakfree or CLP will free up your action enough to correct feeding problems? |
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A lot of GI’s, especially those in support units, do not get the proper training when it comes to weapons maintenance. Folks like Pvt. Lynch’s unit probably never thought as a support unit that they would actually face the enemy in combat, so weapons maintenance was not top priority, nothing against those soldiers or her, who all fought very bravely. The Army tries to re-enforce proper weapons maintenance and cleaning with things such as PS Magazine, which not only covers weapons maintenance but care and up keep of just about all equipment. This magazine comes out monthly, whether or not the soldiers read it is another thing. I’ve personally seen the things lay around in the Platoon Room only to get dumped in the trash. Like the saying goes…..”You can lead a horse to water……………….”  
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| Never liked CLP even with 6+ yrs in the Marines. I've personally seen too many weapons system malfunction due to lack of lubrication and evaporation from the heat the various systems generate. My unit used various types of lube besides CLP to keep our weapons running. CLP in my opinion doesen't protect enough from heat , doesn't stay where you put it "Runs Everywhere!" and it seperates in its container when left to sit. There are other products out there worth using, I personally hae sent care packages with Wilson's Ultima Lube & TW25B from mil-comm. They troops have e-mailed me it is so much better than CLP which attracts sand & dust on their weapons. CLP = "Cleans Like Pee!" |
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