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Posted: 1/16/2005 3:32:16 PM EDT
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I saw this in another thread, and felt it deserved its own thread. "BF CLP is out of the question for me until I see evidence that it does not cause sensitizing of the skin." I've heard a couple times that it's bad and to wear gloves? Why is it harmful? |
Get a bottle of CLP, read the ingredients, the search online for CLP in the MSDS.
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Yeah Whatever - READ: "...PROPRIETARY..." I've seen this used in many other MSDS's before, but I'd like to see a CAS # listed for each ingredient so I can check out the MSDS for that particular item. |
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Opesus, Hey...where you at? HAHA! I've been using CLP for quite a few years, and don't have mladspkd[spjlkjhadf;lgag'[ajgl;'kangl/adfgo0[erigh;laekfgnad;ofgha;ogahbnfgv/a;ldghna;oghad;o';larga;flgkhafphoa;sd any problems to speak of. Save for a twitch every now and then... |
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Well I do not know about you guys but I fill my bathtub with CLP and carburetor cleaner too about six inches from the top then jump in with two toothbrushes my cleaning kit the family dog and then the wife when I clean my guns. We all grew a third eye. I have found that the third eye gives me a edge on targeting in quickly. The dog can spot birds over five miles away now, But the wife can see my gun store receipts in my wallet from 50 yards away. (Bummer) hippie.gif By the way this was a joke Rollyman out!! |
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I've got wicked sensitive skin, in time there's little doubt that any nasty chem will cause me to react. Once, I slept out overnight with the remnants of commercial camo paint on my face and woke up to swollen shut eyes. That said, I use gloves when cleaning.. Powder-free latex exam gloves. The powder is an irritant. I've tried vinyl (ie: non-latex) gloves as well, but they tend to stiffen up and then break down VERY fast. After hours coated in FP-10 CLP though the latex ones are usually still in the game. For a few bucks a box, they're 110% worth it. |
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The powder on latex exam gloves is nothing more than corn starch. |
Sure is, but the corn starch may leach out the allergens in latex gloves and aggrevate things. I'm not allergic to either one, but the supply I draw from are powder free and that's how it was explained to me. |
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As an Occupational Medicine physician I'll offer the following: Any solvent can "sensitize" the skin because they remove (disolve) the oils that keep the skin flexible. Once this "defatting" occurs, the skin becomes dry and brittle, cracks and becomes "sensitive". Proprietary ingredients on the MSDS are not an issue, just look at the health affects. They have to address the health affects regardless. Proprietary ingredients are often another way of saying "mixed solvents" and "we don't really know exactly what's in them." That's not unusual. I use CLP. If it irritates your skin, either: (1) use gloves, (2) use hand lotion afterwards, or (3) try another product. Since any "cleaner" will contain solvents, (3) isn't likely to help. Water-based solvents aren't any easier on the skin. If they cut oil, they'll remove the oils from you skin. There are very few pure oils that don't have some type of detergent additive. If you can clean your gun using straight mineral oil, that would be safest for your skin as long as you avoid contact with any of the combustion byproducts being removed by the cleaning. Trust me, straight oils are poor cleaners. Hope that answers any questions from a medical perspective. |
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I second the blue nitrile... you can get them for a pretty good price from MSC industrial www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PARTPG=NNLMK32&PMPXNO=3226064 They're $10.14 + shipping per 100 count box and powder free |
| Ive been fooling around with the newer Break Free clp liquid for the last few weeks.The new green formula with its lower solvent content seems to be much easier on the skin as compared to the older version.I have yet to have a skin reaction with the newer liquid formula.The newer clp aerosol still breaks me out something terrible though.Higher solvent content.So I still think its the solvents that get me. |
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Gota pint and 4oz. of the BF CLP from Midway.usa off backorder first of last summer when it was sale.Both are apparently the new green colored "E" formula.Seems to be slightly thicker than the old amber formula.Neither of the two bottles look to have PTFE.Shook and poured some in a blood tube.Clear amber green colored oil,not cloudy and nothing seperated over night.Has a very faint odor. Got another pint of the BF CLP from Midway this past January,on sale again for $10.99,smokin deal(part#667-637).Same thing,clear amber green tint oil,nothing settles out and not much of a odor to it. The BF CLP aerosol came from the local gunshop.Its also the newer formula.Has the amber green tint to it but does have the PTFE and is cloudy.The PTFE looks sorta grey rather than white like the old BF,and seperates to the bottom overnight.Sprayed some in a tube again to confirm.The areosol can has the plastic shrink wrap type label as does the newer 4oz. liquid I got,rather than the glued on paper label of the old bottles and cans.The aerosol has a very strong odor as usual. HTH |
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