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7/5/2014 7:04:40 PM EDT
Today I was shooting a build i recently put together and had some issues extracting the spent cartridge. The gun fired fine, but when the bolt came back it was leaving the cartridge in the chamber. Upon inspection of the spent case, I noticed the lip of the case had a nick in it where the extractor sort of scraped it or it maybe tore a small (very small) part of the lip, leaving the cartridge in the chamber.



When using a cleaning rod to get out the spent case, it came out effortlessly.




I've fired this barreled upper many times before (it came on my Sendra when I got it, so lots of full auto) and never had an issue.




At first, I thought it had a sticky chamber so I cleaned the chamber but that didn't help.




The bolt career group MIGHT be a recent replacement. I just can't remember because I've bought so many parts in the last year and a half. So, maybe the bolt has a bad extractor or extractor spring?




What would cause the lip of the cartridge to sort of rip like that? For what it is worth, this happened with both IMI and Wolf today. Both before and after scrubbing the chamber.
7/6/2014 8:32:21 AM EDT
[#1]
Pull and check the extractor and the extractor spring on the bolt.
http://www.ar15.com/content/guides/parts/bolt.html

If the spring is still seem strong (large coil side of the spring installs in the extractor channel side), and the extractor grab claw is still sharp, then install a #60 O ring around the extractor (should be able to buy a #60 O ring for about a dime at any hardware store).

If the spring is weak (from lots of full auto fire that over heated the extractor spring), or the extractor grabbing claw worn, then replace the worn part.
7/6/2014 11:46:51 AM EDT
[#2]
I agree.  Cheap fixes first.  A #60 o-ring around the extractor spring might fix it, but if it does I personally would not call it fixed.  I prefer my rifles to run without such items so if the o-ring did fix it I would still replace the extractor and spring.
7/6/2014 4:05:20 PM EDT
[#3]
I have a few spare bolts that I will try out on it.  If it is hopefully just an issue with the extractor, I hope a different bolt will solve the problem until I have time to really analyze it.
7/6/2014 4:07:10 PM EDT
[#4]
Sendra kit?  It was likely overgassed to start with.  What kind of buffer are you running?
7/6/2014 4:07:40 PM EDT
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I have a few spare bolts that I will try out on it.  If it is hopefully just an issue with the extractor, I hope a different bolt will solve the problem until I have time to really analyze it.
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Just swap the extractor and spring.
7/6/2014 4:28:25 PM EDT
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Sendra kit?  It was likely overgassed to start with.  What kind of buffer are you running?
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I really dont know the origin of the barrel.  I'm guessing it is a Sendra barrel (because it came with my RR), but who knows?  It might be an Early Bushmaster (they did the M16 conversion in April 1986).  These parts are NOT currently installed on the M16, they were slapped together with a "spare parts gun."  The rifle is a 20" HBAR with a full A1 stock and full sized buffer.  



The BCG probably came from AIM when they had a cheap deal on BCGs for like $90 a while back.  

The LPK is PSA.  

The upper receiver came from M&A parts (I think)

The receiver is Aero Precision.

The stock set up and buffer is unknown origin.



I don't have any spare extractor springs or extractors, so that is why I think it would just be easy to remove the bolt, stick it in a zip lock with a note so I know it has issues, and then install a Colt or FN bolt I have.



 
7/6/2014 4:50:43 PM EDT
[#7]
Are you running a carbine buffer and spring?

What length is the barrel and gas system?
7/6/2014 4:53:24 PM EDT
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Are you running a carbine buffer and spring?



What length is the barrel and gas system?
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No, rifle

 



20" rifle bbl and gas tube
7/6/2014 5:01:43 PM EDT
[#9]
Simplest answer first:  Take the extractor assembly from another know good bolt and swap JUST THAT out.
7/6/2014 7:37:44 PM EDT
[#10]
A whole extractor kit is what, $14? Just replace it all and drive on as 9/10 either the class or spring is FUBAR.
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