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6/3/2009 9:32:06 AM EDT
Hi guy.  New here but felt this was the best place for some help.

Went out this weekend and sighted in my two Ar's.  My R-15 was flawless but the R-25 has an annoying problem.  First I was using the factory 4 shot mag. At least half the time it was fine.  The other half bugged me to no end.

What is happening is after the first shot the gun would jamb loading the second round.  Now you should know that I had a compensator installed.  I am thinking that the reduced recoil is the problem but is always after the first shot.  If it was the comp. wouldn't it be random.  I also thought that the mag didn't like 4 rounds so I put in 3.  Same thing, first round and jamb.

Can someone please explain what is happening.  I attached pictures. They are from my cell phone, sorry.

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6/3/2009 9:41:20 AM EDT
[#1]
Looks like FTE and that would not be the mag.
6/3/2009 9:48:25 AM EDT
[#2]
Remington R-25 Problem


I found your problem.

Just kidding.  I had to do it before someone else did.
6/3/2009 9:52:24 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Looks like FTE and that would not be the mag.


+1

Check the extractor claw and spring.  Make sure it pivots freely and snaps back down fully.

Also check the ejector plunger and make sure it's not sticking.
6/3/2009 10:26:52 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Looks like FTE and that would not be the mag.


OK, so what is the prob.?  What is causing this?  What is FTE?

I am going back out this weekend brings my other mags to see if it continues or if it is just the factory mag giving me grief.

I guess it should be know that this is my first semi-auto rifle.  I come from the lever action crowd.
6/3/2009 10:28:15 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Remington R-25 Problem


I found your problem.

Just kidding.  I had to do it before someone else did.


Yep, that's the problem. Bullet not in the barrel straight.
6/3/2009 10:29:46 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Looks like FTE and that would not be the mag.


+1

Check the extractor claw and spring.  Make sure it pivots freely and snaps back down fully.

Also check the ejector plunger and make sure it's not sticking.


Even on a new gun? This was the first time I even fired it.
6/3/2009 10:44:22 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Looks like FTE and that would not be the mag.


+1

Check the extractor claw and spring.  Make sure it pivots freely and snaps back down fully.

Also check the ejector plunger and make sure it's not sticking.


Even on a new gun? This was the first time I even fired it.


All of this should have been done when the rifle was fully cleaned before being shot for the first time by you.

As for the problem at hand, will the rifle lock the bolt back on the  bolt catch with only one round mag loaded and fired.  If yes, the the bolt over problem and double live feeding is probably all the mag (mag not feeding or recovering correctly).  

If the bolt does not lock back after the single loaded mag firing test, then you have short stoking going on, with the bolt not retracting back past the rim of the live round in the mag for a clean mag strip and feed into the chamber.
6/3/2009 10:53:57 AM EDT
[#8]
Per that description it sounds like the mag.  The bolt always stayed open after last shot.

The gun also always ejected spent cases.
6/3/2009 12:42:53 PM EDT
[#9]
same probelm with MY R-25 I BOUGHT 4 WEEKS AGO. TOOK IT BACK TO DEALER IN FARGO AND THEY SHIPPED IT BACK UNDER WARRANTY. I talked to my dealer here and they called dpms/remington and they have not even looked at it. said they will try to get to it in 2 weeks. they are pumping these guns out so fast there not even checking if there in spec. i have bought my last dpms product. this has happen twice with 2 of my dpms rifles. nothing is more upsetting than spending 1650.00 for a rifle and 900.00 for a scope at your local dealer and the gun not working out of the box. I hope DPMS REP IS READING THIS POST. Marty
6/19/2009 2:17:09 PM EDT
[#10]
Pretty much the same thing happened to me.  I had bought one box of blue-box Federals and one box of the cheapest Remingtons.  The Federals matched your problems, the Remingtons fired as fast as I could pull the trigger.  Go figure.  This week I found out not to waste my time with cheap Russian Ammo (tried only brass cased examples).  It wouldn't even chamber.  Chamber's too narrow?  My buddy shot the cheap stuff through his Saga AK-actioned 308 and it digested without a hitch.  My emails to Remington was referred to DPMS.  DPMS ignored emails.  Federal wanted me to send the cartridges back to them, saying I didn't need to worry about legalities.  My research showed otherwise so I ignored them.  Just what I needed the BATF beating my door down.

A bright spot?  Yes!   I reloaded my spent ammo with a RCBS small base die on my RCBS Pro 2000, using a ogive to case rim length that matched the Remington cartridges, and it worked flawlessly.
6/26/2009 4:01:17 PM EDT
[#11]
I have a R25 myself and fire it quite a bit. I am also a frequent user of the SR25 and M110. Something I found with all 3 rifles is that they require good lubrication in the bolt group to function reliably. I have found strike hold is the best lube as far as working well and sticking to the parts. I also noticed that My R25 had VERY TIGHT gas rings. This means more "labor" to cycle the system. Lube up and break it in, be patient.
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