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6/24/2005 5:29:37 PM EDT

 I just put on a new tele stock on my AR. When I fired it today in the extended position it collapsed one position with each shot until it was completely forward. Each time I entended it again, same thing. Each shot my face was getting closer  to the sight. A little background. I just got this stock from the Sportsmans Guide and  I was confused when they included 2 springs. I only loaded 1 spring and the buffer. Is this the problem? Do those stocks require two springs to operate correctly? I never had any problems when I had the fixed stock on there with only 1 spring. Any assistance is appreciated. Thanks.
6/24/2005 5:36:59 PM EDT
[#1]
It sounds like the pin isn't sitting deep enough in the detent holes to lock into position. Springs will not cause this problem.
6/24/2005 5:50:49 PM EDT
[#2]
If it's the same cheap Chinese-made tele-stock I bought from Tapco (did it come in a little brown box with the word "CHINA" on it?), you will need to adjust the pin depth by backing it out a few threads.
6/24/2005 6:11:47 PM EDT
[#3]
Yes it is that Brown Box stock you speak of. I will give the pin a shot like you have both stated. Can I ask why they put 2 springs in the box with it? Thanks for the help
6/24/2005 6:14:12 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Can I ask why they put 2 springs in the box with it?



I cannot see any reason for putting two springs in the box. Are they the same length, etc?
6/24/2005 6:15:11 PM EDT
[#5]
Yes, same length. Also same tension.
6/24/2005 8:19:48 PM EDT
[#6]
The receoil springs are cheap, and will wear out very shortly, so use them with a grain of salt.

If the rifle begins to have a harder recoil or problems stripping a round out of the mag during a charge, switch over to the other spring.  When that one goes bad, replace it with a USA made spring.

6/25/2005 3:52:01 AM EDT
[#7]
Well I've adjusted the pin many different ways and simulated shooting by hitting the buttstock with my hand and each time it starts to slide in. It's no good to me that way so it looks like I'll be sending it back. Lesson learned.
6/25/2005 3:56:18 AM EDT
[#8]
loosen the nut until the latch rattles, tighten the nut just until the latch stops rattling. test

compare the OD of the pin to the ID of the pin holes. check the fit of the pin to the pin holes. sometimes a little radius at the head of the pin is needed on the cheap stocks.
6/25/2005 4:16:43 AM EDT
[#9]
FYI: to remove the butt stock from the receiver extension, pull the unlocking portion (caming handle?) all the way away from the stock.  This will pull the detent pin in, and allow you to slide the butt stock all the way off the tube.
6/25/2005 4:58:40 AM EDT
[#10]
I've loosened the nut as much as I think I can. I'm not getting all the rattle you are describing though. Can you take the pin all the way out? How would you be able to compare the pin resting position in the hole without actually being able to see the two together?
6/25/2005 5:05:44 AM EDT
[#11]
Ok, I was able to pull the stock off the tube. Is it possible to have to drill the recessed holes deeper in order for the pins to hold? I noticed the hole closest to the receiver is slightly deeper than the other outer 3 holes. This would lead me to believe I could in theory drill them deeper without punching throught he tube entirely. Am I correct in this thinking?
6/25/2005 5:40:54 AM EDT
[#12]
You shouldn't need to drill the receiver extension detent pinholes any deeper.  Just make sure that the detent is bottoming all the way in the holes when you let go of the adjustment lever (use the front hole to set the detent bottoming distance (backing off the nut), then when the stock is set to the rearward holes, you will have a little play in the adjustment lever since these holes are shallower.

FYI: You may have to back up/hold the detent post to allow you to spin the nut off a few threads. If this is the case, and the nut is loose after adjusting, use a little Blue loctite to lock the nut into the post threads.  The detent adjustment should be a one-time thing, but if you need to remove the nut at a later date, you can transfer heat to the nut to break the loctite bond.
7/16/2005 6:32:07 PM EDT
[#13]
Just to make you feel better, you are not alone.  My four position telestock has begun doing the same thing.  Relatively new too.   Less than a year old and probably had only 1000 rounds down the barrel.
7/23/2005 10:36:07 AM EDT
[#14]
I've tried and tried to fix my telestock  - 4 position unit with no indications of make, source, manufactuer etc.   ZERO LUCK.

HELP - any suggestions?   If I need to replace this piece of low end junk (dealer sold me a ban rifle but told me it was 'no ban'.  I was too new to realize I was being ripped off.  The modified gun was sold to me as new.   Big showroom, they 'charge extra' if you want to buy with credit cards... located in Port Orange Florida.

anyway, what should I replace the telestock with?
Any suggestions on a reputable supplier?

thanks.
7/23/2005 1:51:37 PM EDT
[#15]
Colt.

7/29/2005 7:36:52 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

FYI: You may have to back up/hold the detent post to allow you to spin the nut off a few threads. If this is the case, and the nut is loose after adjusting, use a little Blue loctite to lock the nut into the post threads.  The detent adjustment should be a one-time thing, but if you need to remove the nut at a later date, you can transfer heat to the nut to break the loctite bond.



Dano523:

How did you back up/hold the detent post to spin the nut off a few threads?
Do you have to take off the pin on the cap first?

I tried last night, it seems I need to use a vise to hold the detend in order to loose the nut, just can't figure out where to hold it

Thanks for your reply!
7/29/2005 8:00:20 AM EDT
[#17]
I have seen a few ways that the nut is retained on the locking detent.  Since you stated cross pin, my guess is that you will need to drive the pin out of the detent in order to turn the castle type nut the needed few turn on the detent threads.

As for backing up the detent, pull the butt stock off the receiver extension, then just reach in the  opening to back the detent up with a long needle nose type plyers.

7/29/2005 9:37:02 AM EDT
[#18]
Thanks. Let me try it tonight.

I bought the same stock from Sportsmanguides.com, I have the same issue of not holding the stock in position firmly.

The detent is too short to sit the hole. Need to loose a few thread to sit the bottom of the hole.
That's why I ask how to loose the thread.
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