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Posted: 3/7/2016 2:01:54 AM EDT
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This is my first build please tell me what you guys think. So far it is just paper built will take some time to build it is not going to be a cheap build at all. Please give me some suggestions on anything that I might be missing or could do better. BE HONEST Thanks!
1.Stock: Magpul CTR $59.95 2.Buffer Tube, Buffer, Buffer Spring & Accessories: Spikes Tactical $69.95 3.Rear Sling Mount: ASAP Ambidextrous Sling Attachment Point $29.95 4.Rear Sling Swivel: QD Sling Swivel $14.95 5.Grip: Magpul MOE-K2+ $24.95 6.Trigger: Geissele SSA-E $240.00 7.Charging Handle: BCM Large $49.95 8.B.U.I.S: Troy Ind. Dioptic Folding Sight, Tritium $164.00 9.Red Dot Sight: Trijicon MRO with American Defense Quick Detachable Mount $493.00 10.Upper & Lower Receiver: Mega Billet Standard Upper $206.00 / GTR-3H AMBI Lower with built in Trigger Guard $237.00 11.Hand Guard: Troy Ind. Alpha 13” $199.00 12.Barrel Nut: Troy Standard $10.20 13.Barrel: Noveske CHF Chrome Lined Lo-Pro 16” $365.00 14.Front Sight: M4 Folding Sight, Tritium $144.00 15.Flash Hider: Yankee Hill Machine Phantom Aggressive $34.00 16.Vertical Grip: Magpul MOE $19.95 17.Gas Block & Tube: Noveske CHF Low-Pro 18.Bolt Carrier Group: BCM (MPI) $169.00 19.Lower Parts Kit: Anderson Lower Parts Kit minus Hammer and Trigger $31.50 20.Magazine Release Butten: Seekins Precision Billet Mag Release Button $5.69 21.Bolt Catch Release Butten: Seekins Precision Enhanced Bolt Catch Button $12.99 22.Safety: Seekins Precision Ambi-Safety Selector $39.99 23.Upper & Lower Takedown Pins: Battle Arms Development Enhanced Pivot/Takedown $29.95 24.Light: Elzetta Charlie Model C114 $205.00 25.Light Mount: Elzetta ZRX $35.00 26.Front Sling Mount: QD Sling Swivel $14.95 27.Sling: VTAC Padded Sling Upgrade $49.95 28.(KNS Anti-Roll Pins) $33.00 29.(Troy Ind. Squid Grips) $24.99 30.(RRA Forward Assist Kit) $13.50 31.(RRA Ejection Port Kit) $8.00 32.(Leo Armory Custom Ejection Port Cover) $38.95 |
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1.Stock: Magpul CTR $59.95 2.Buffer Tube, Buffer, Buffer Spring & Accessories: Spikes Tactical $69.95 1. https://dsgarms.com/mgctrstockkitblk 3.Rear Sling Mount: ASAP Ambidextrous Sling Attachment Point $29.95 4.Rear Sling Swivel: QD Sling Swivel $14.95The CTR has sling swivels built in. 5.Grip: Magpul MOE-K2+ $24.95 6.Trigger: Geissele SSA-E $240.00 7.Charging Handle: BCM Large $49.95 Personal preference, but I'd go with the AXTS Raptor 8.B.U.I.S: Troy Ind. Dioptic Folding Sight, Tritium $164.00 Again personal preference, but I'd go with the Magpu MBUS Pro 9.Red Dot Sight: Trijicon MRO with American Defense Quick Detachable Mount $493.00 10.Upper & Lower Receiver: Mega Billet Standard Upper $206.00 / GTR-3H AMBI Lower with built in Trigger Guard $237.00 11.Hand Guard: Troy Ind. Alpha 13” $199.00 I'd go with an SLR Rifleworks over the Troy, better handguard all around and depending on which one you get could end up being a bit cheaper. 12.Barrel Nut: Troy Standard $10.20 the SLR comes with a barrel nut 13.Barrel: Noveske CHF Chrome Lined Lo-Pro 16” $365.00 14.Front Sight: M4 Folding Sight, Tritium $144.00 Once again, I'd go with the Magpul MBUS Pro 15.Flash Hider: Yankee Hill Machine Phantom Aggressive $34.00 16.Vertical Grip: Magpul MOE $19.95 17.Gas Block & Tube: Noveske CHF Low-Pro 18.Bolt Carrier Group: BCM (MPI) $169.00 19.Lower Parts Kit: Anderson Lower Parts Kit minus Hammer and Trigger $31.50 I wouldn't bother with an LPK, you're replacing almost everything in it. With what you have listed you'll need takedown/pivot pins detents and detent springs, a mag release and spring, a bolt catch spring and buffer, a buffer retention pin and spring, and a safety detent and spring. Or just go here and build your own LPK and not need the next four items on your list. 20.Magazine Release Butten: Seekins Precision Billet Mag Release Button $5.69 21.Bolt Catch Release Butten: Seekins Precision Enhanced Bolt Catch Button $12.99 22.Safety: Seekins Precision Ambi-Safety Selector $39.99 23.Upper & Lower Takedown Pins: Battle Arms Development Enhanced Pivot/Takedown $29.95 24.Light: Elzetta Charlie Model C114 $205.00 25.Light Mount: Elzetta ZRX $35.00 26.Front Sling Mount: QD Sling Swivel $14.95 27.Sling: VTAC Padded Sling Upgrade $49.95 28.(KNS Anti-Roll Pins) $33.00 They're not needed and Bill Geissele recommends against using them with his triggers. 29.(Troy Ind. Squid Grips) $24.99 30.(RRA Forward Assist Kit) $13.50 31.(RRA Ejection Port Kit) $8.00 32.(Leo Armory Custom Ejection Port Cover) $38.95 |
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1.Stock: Magpul CTR $59.95 2.Buffer Tube, Buffer, Buffer Spring & Accessories: Spikes Tactical $69.95 1. https://dsgarms.com/mgctrstockkitblk 3.Rear Sling Mount: ASAP Ambidextrous Sling Attachment Point $29.95 4.Rear Sling Swivel: QD Sling Swivel $14.95The CTR has sling swivels built in. 5.Grip: Magpul MOE-K2+ $24.95 6.Trigger: Geissele SSA-E $240.00 7.Charging Handle: BCM Large $49.95 Personal preference, but I'd go with the AXTS Raptor 8.B.U.I.S: Troy Ind. Dioptic Folding Sight, Tritium $164.00 Again personal preference, but I'd go with the Magpu MBUS Pro 9.Red Dot Sight: Trijicon MRO with American Defense Quick Detachable Mount $493.00 10.Upper & Lower Receiver: Mega Billet Standard Upper $206.00 / GTR-3H AMBI Lower with built in Trigger Guard $237.00 11.Hand Guard: Troy Ind. Alpha 13” $199.00 I'd go with an SLR Rifleworks over the Troy, better handguard all around and depending on which one you get could end up being a bit cheaper. 12.Barrel Nut: Troy Standard $10.20 the SLR comes with a barrel nut 13.Barrel: Noveske CHF Chrome Lined Lo-Pro 16” $365.00 14.Front Sight: M4 Folding Sight, Tritium $144.00 Once again, I'd go with the Magpul MBUS Pro 15.Flash Hider: Yankee Hill Machine Phantom Aggressive $34.00 16.Vertical Grip: Magpul MOE $19.95 17.Gas Block & Tube: Noveske CHF Low-Pro 18.Bolt Carrier Group: BCM (MPI) $169.00 19.Lower Parts Kit: Anderson Lower Parts Kit minus Hammer and Trigger $31.50 I wouldn't bother with an LPK, you're replacing almost everything in it. With what you have listed you'll need takedown/pivot pins detents and detent springs, a mag release and spring, a bolt catch spring and buffer, a buffer retention pin and spring, and a safety detent and spring. Or just go here and build your own LPK and not need the next four items on your list. 20.Magazine Release Butten: Seekins Precision Billet Mag Release Button $5.69 21.Bolt Catch Release Butten: Seekins Precision Enhanced Bolt Catch Button $12.99 22.Safety: Seekins Precision Ambi-Safety Selector $39.99 23.Upper & Lower Takedown Pins: Battle Arms Development Enhanced Pivot/Takedown $29.95 24.Light: Elzetta Charlie Model C114 $205.00 25.Light Mount: Elzetta ZRX $35.00 26.Front Sling Mount: QD Sling Swivel $14.95 27.Sling: VTAC Padded Sling Upgrade $49.95 28.(KNS Anti-Roll Pins) $33.00 They're not needed and Bill Geissele recommends against using them with his triggers. 29.(Troy Ind. Squid Grips) $24.99 30.(RRA Forward Assist Kit) $13.50 31.(RRA Ejection Port Kit) $8.00 32.(Leo Armory Custom Ejection Port Cover) $38.95 3. BCM QD endplate 5. BCM Mod 0, 1, 2, 3 grip. 10x better than anything Magpul. I have owned Magpul MOE, MOE+, K, K2, BCM is better than all of them and slowly replacing all of them. 8. Magpul BUIS pro (not a troy fan, want to know why search "Troy hate") 11 and 12: SLR Rifleworks would be a great choice. |
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My build that I recently did was very similar to this so I will just show where mine varied. The Mega Billet set is amazing by the way.
1.Stock: Magpul CTR $59.95 Vltor Emod - I put that on this build, but I do have a CTR on a different build. Both nice. 2.Buffer Tube, Buffer, Buffer Spring & Accessories: Spikes Tactical $69.95 - No comment here, any good 7075 buffer tube will be nice. 3.Rear Sling Mount: ASAP Ambidextrous Sling Attachment Point $29.95 - IWC QD endplate I 100% recommend. The dark black matches the Mega Billet receivers nicely, it looks amazing, and works well. Also it costs less than $30. 4.Rear Sling Swivel: QD Sling Swivel $14.95 5.Grip: Magpul MOE-K2+ $24.95 - All preference. 6.Trigger: Geissele SSA-E $240.00 - I used a Geissele SD-C, again user preference. 7.Charging Handle: BCM Large $49.95 - AXTS Raptor Charging Handle I highly recommend. I have a BCM Mod 4 on one build and the Raptor is just leaps and bounds better. 8.B.U.I.S: Troy Ind. Dioptic Folding Sight, Tritium $164.00 - Again preference, I haven't used a multitude of different BUIS, but I like the KAC 200-600m Micros. I don't know much about these tritium sights but they seem way expensive for a pair. 9.Red Dot Sight: Trijicon MRO with American Defense Quick Detachable Mount $493.00 10.Upper & Lower Receiver: Mega Billet Standard Upper $206.00 / GTR-3H AMBI Lower with built in Trigger Guard $237.00 - HIGHLY RECOMMEND, THE SET IS AMAZING! 11.Hand Guard: Troy Ind. Alpha 13” $199.00 - User preference 12.Barrel Nut: Troy Standard $10.20 13.Barrel: Noveske CHF Chrome Lined Lo-Pro 16” $365.00 - Looks good 14.Front Sight: M4 Folding Sight, Tritium $144.00 15.Flash Hider: Yankee Hill Machine Phantom Aggressive $34.00 - Looks good 16.Vertical Grip: Magpul MOE $19.95 17.Gas Block & Tube: Noveske CHF Low-Pro - Looks good 18.Bolt Carrier Group: BCM (MPI) $169.00 - Looks good 19.Lower Parts Kit: Anderson Lower Parts Kit minus Hammer and Trigger $31.50 - Again as someone mentioned you may not need a full kit. 20.Magazine Release Butten: Seekins Precision Billet Mag Release Button $5.69 - Very nice 21.Bolt Catch Release Butten: Seekins Precision Enhanced Bolt Catch Button $12.99 - These match very well with the Mega Billet set, it is what I am using. 22.Safety: Seekins Precision Ambi-Safety Selector $39.99 - I got the AXTS Talon and it's incredible. You can order a Raptor + Talon together and save a little money if you go this route. 23.Upper & Lower Takedown Pins: Battle Arms Development Enhanced Pivot/Takedown $29.95 24.Light: Elzetta Charlie Model C114 $205.00 25.Light Mount: Elzetta ZRX $35.00 26.Front Sling Mount: QD Sling Swivel $14.95 27.Sling: VTAC Padded Sling Upgrade $49.95 28.(KNS Anti-Roll Pins) $33.00 - Unneeded with Geissele. 29.(Troy Ind. Squid Grips) $24.99 30.(RRA Forward Assist Kit) $13.50 31.(RRA Ejection Port Kit) $8.00 32.(Leo Armory Custom Ejection Port Cover) $38.95 Goodluck, it looks great! |
| Wow thank you everyone for there replies. I am literally copying and pasting every single suggestions and recommendations for research and possibly alterations. Again thank you very much to everyone who has replied thus far very much helpful advice!!! There is so much info and products out there it is incredible. I really like the BCM MOD Grips and the SLR Handguards very nice. The DSG arms sight for the CTR stock will save me a good amount of money. All the prices I have listed are from mostly the main developers websites and not secondary sites with cheaper prces. I def will be shopping within those secondary sites. |
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Solid list of parts. Are you set on the Troy rail? The mount up system isn't very robust in my experience. Either way you should consider getting a complete BCM upper with you're rail of choice. It should save you some money from the prices you have listed.
1.Stock: Magpul CTR $59.95 2.Buffer Tube, Buffer, Buffer Spring & Accessories: Spikes Tactical $69.95 check out damage industries for buffer tubes and small parts 3.Rear Sling Mount: ASAP Ambidextrous Sling Attachment Point $29.95 damage industries 4.Rear Sling Swivel: QD Sling Swivel $14.95 damage industries 5.Grip: Magpul MOE-K2+ $24.95 BCM mod 3, so much nicer in the hand. 6.Trigger: Geissele SSA-E $240.00 - Good choice, might be able to get it on sale with the parts kit from PSA or consider the Larue for $125. 7.Charging Handle: BCM Large $49.95 8.B.U.I.S: Troy Ind. Dioptic Folding Sight, Tritium $164.00 - Get the regular Troys or maybe the Magpul Pros, My eyes didn't like the dioptic sights. 9.Red Dot Sight: Trijicon MRO with American Defense Quick Detachable Mount $493.00 10.Upper & Lower Receiver: Mega Billet Standard Upper $206.00 / GTR-3H AMBI Lower with built in Trigger Guard $237.00 Great stuff, there's just other options out there now. 2A, Battle Arms Development, etc 11.Hand Guard: Troy Ind. Alpha 13” $199.00 There are better options out there for the price. Keeping with the Troy look, check out the ALG handguards. 12.Barrel Nut: Troy Standard $10.20 13.Barrel: Noveske CHF Chrome Lined Lo-Pro 16” $365.00 Great barrel, but I'd go BCM BHF to match your BCM BCG 14.Front Sight: M4 Folding Sight, Tritium $144.00 15.Flash Hider: Yankee Hill Machine Phantom Aggressive $34.00 - Suppressor mount from your company of choice. 16.Vertical Grip: Magpul MOE $19.95 17.Gas Block & Tube: Noveske CHF Low-Pro 18.Bolt Carrier Group: BCM (MPI) $169.00 19.Lower Parts Kit: Anderson Lower Parts Kit minus Hammer and Trigger $31.50 20.Magazine Release Butten: Seekins Precision Billet Mag Release Button $5.69 21.Bolt Catch Release Butten: Seekins Precision Enhanced Bolt Catch Button $12.99 22.Safety: Seekins Precision Ambi-Safety Selector $39.99 23.Upper & Lower Takedown Pins: Battle Arms Development Enhanced Pivot/Takedown $29.95 - All my builds get these. 24.Light: Elzetta Charlie Model C114 $205.00 - great lights, they are pricey though 25.Light Mount: Elzetta ZRX $35.00 26.Front Sling Mount: QD Sling Swivel $14.95 Get a rail with built in QD's if possible. 27.Sling: VTAC Padded Sling Upgrade $49.95 28.(KNS Anti-Roll Pins) $33.00 wast of money and not recommended with Geissele trigger. 29.(Troy Ind. Squid Grips) $24.99 30.(RRA Forward Assist Kit) $13.50 31.(RRA Ejection Port Kit) $8.00 Your Mega or other billet upper typically come assembled 32.(Leo Armory Custom Ejection Port Cover) $38.95 |
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BCM has several complete upper receivers with Troy rails instock.
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-16-Recce-Upper-Groups-Mid-Length-s/132.htm Larue 2 stage trigger for $125 Mega Ambi 3S Model - Better Match with Standard Uppers Damage ind. receiver ext parts If you end up getting a BCM upper you should consider pairing it with a matching BCM lower....... Whatever you do, post picts when you get it done. You should be able to get everything you're looking for from Rainier, BCM & Damage Ind. Should save you on shipping. |
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I def will keep everyone up to date when I start collecting the pieces for the Rifle.
I am a seasonal business owner I run a small Lawn Care & Landscape business so it should start picking up soon. I will post picks and updates I appreciate every ones input and awesome suggestions and thanks for being a good group of people not bashing me on my build this really is a kick ass website, not trying to sound soft but it is very cool of you all. I am seriously looking at the SLR Hand Guards now not the Troy Alpha. Going with BCM MOD 3 over Magpul. Also would I run into any problems running a Noveske barrel with a BCM BCG I was also thinking a BCG from Rubber City Armory. |
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A few things that come to mind:
-I don't see the need for tritium BUIS, especially when you will have a red dot and light. I've also found that the one set I do have, the front sight's vial wasn't the brightest and if it wasn't pitch black it didn't seem to help too much. -From my build experiences, get the essentials first and don't buy the accessories until you have fired the rifle. In some cases this just allows you to get a functional rifle faster; for example if you get the BUIS first, hold of on the MRO until everything else is up and running (plus irons practice is always good). In other cases, it will make you stop and think about if you really need/want something you were planning on: in this case, you might get this handguard and decide you don't really want/need a vertical grip. Lastly, I know I'd go with some different parts for budget/ cost-benefit reasons and that's a personal thing, but what makes that dust cover worth nearly $40?
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A few things that come to mind: -I don't see the need for tritium BUIS, especially when you will have a red dot and light. I've also found that the one set I do have, the front sight's vial wasn't the brightest and if it wasn't pitch black it didn't seem to help too much. -From my build experiences, get the essentials first and don't buy the accessories until you have fired the rifle. In some cases this just allows you to get a functional rifle faster; for example if you get the BUIS first, hold of on the MRO until everything else is up and running (plus irons practice is always good). In other cases, it will make you stop and think about if you really need/want something you were planning on: in this case, you might get this handguard and decide you don't really want/need a vertical grip. No doubt I will get the Irons first then Red Dot later. Vertical grip I put out there because it is just an example of how far I might go with the rifle if I do. Lastly, I know I'd go with some different parts for budget/ cost-benefit reasons and that's a personal thing, but what makes that dust cover worth nearly $40? ![]() Just personal engravings you can have put on it. I will most likely not do this lol. |
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Altered plans a bit see what everyone thinks?
1.Stock: Magpul CTR $59.95 2.Buffer Tube, Buffer, Buffer Spring & Accessories: Spikes Tactical $69.95 3.Rear Sling Mount: ASAP Ambidextrous Sling Attachment Point $29.95 4.Rear Sling Swivel: QD Sling Swivel $14.95 5.Grip: BCM MOD 3 $17.95 6.Trigger: Geissele SSA-E $240.00 7.Charging Handle: BCM Medium $49.95 8.B.U.I.S: Troy Ind. Dioptic Folding Sight $119.00 9.Red Dot Sight: Trijicon MRO with American Defense Quick Detachable Mount $493.00 10.Upper & Lower Receiver: Mega Billet Standard Upper $206.00 / GTR-3H AMBI Lower with built in Trigger Guard $237.00 11.Hand Guard: SLR Rifle Works HELIX 13.7" MLOK HANDGUARD $249.99 12.Barrel: Noveske CHF Chrome Lined Lo-Pro 16” $365.00 13.Front Sight: M4 Folding Sight $99.00 14.Flash Hider: Yankee Hill Machine Phantom Aggressive $34.00 15.Vertical Grip: Magpul MOE $19.95 16.Gas Block & Tube: Noveske CHF Low-Pro v 17.Bolt Carrier Group: Rubber City Armory Standard $189.00 18.Lower Parts Kit: Anderson Lower Parts Kit minus Hammer and Trigger $31.50 19.Magazine Release Butten: Seekins Precision Billet Mag Release Button $5.69 20.Bolt Catch Release Butten: Seekins Precision Enhanced Bolt Catch Button $12.99 21.Safety: Seekins Precision Ambi-Safety Selector $39.99 22.Upper & Lower Takedown Pins: Battle Arms Development Enhanced Pivot/Takedown $29.95 23.Light: Elzetta Charlie Model C114 $205.00 24.Light Mount: Elzetta ZRX $35.00 25.Front Sling Mount: QD Sling Swivel $14.95 26.Sling: VTAC Padded Sling Upgrade $49.95 27.(RRA Forward Assist Kit) $13.50 28.(RRA Ejection Port Kit) $8.00 |
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Check PSA for BCG. They are MPI/HPT and often instock.
DSA is a good choice for Magpul stocks and buffer tube combination. $$ Why the RRA forward assist and ejection port kits? You can buy the stripped upper receiver and those components for less. They all function the same! Look at PSA, White Oak, or other AR15 sponsors. I suggest you search more AR15 sponsors and other AR vendors recommended here. |
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