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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - buffer tube trouble (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/1/2014 8:16:08 AM EDT
| I've already gotten 3 different buffer tubes for my build, the first I bought at a gun show, it was supposed to be mil spec but turned out to be com spec so my stock wouldn't fit, the second I ordered off ebay and was supposed to be flat dark earth, but it doesn't match any of my flat dark earth stock or anything, it actually looked gold, but the seller accepted the return.... third one was supposed to be a black mil spec tube and well my buffer got stuck in it.... inside circumference of the tube was obviously too small, and I'm going to have to cut the tube to get my buffer out, and the ebay seller optical factory wasn't any help and refuses to refund it for me a standard a3 buffer would fit but I guess my 5oz heavy buffer is slightly larger than an a3 buffer but I've ran this buffe through other tubes during testing on other guns.... now I need to order a buffer tube and I need to be sure it is one that isn't going to be out of spec and the inside be too small, or it turn out to be com spec or whatever else.. |
| Do not order receiver extensions from eBay or buy them from the crooks at gun shows. Lesson learned, huh? Head on over to the BCM or AIM websites (or other similar vendor with great rep) & order a real mil-spec tube for great prices. You will recieve them quickly & not not have these headaches. |
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It is not clear to me what buffer you have or what you mean by “standard A3 buffer”.
Although the weights vary buffer sizes are standardized for the standard buffers. Depending on what you mean by “slightly” larger your buffer may not be suitable for use in standard dimension tubes. I certainly agree with the others that buying from e-bay and gun shows is a good way to get screwed. |
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You could probably run Chicomm knock-off pistol grips or sling swivels and never know the difference.
When it comes to the operating system of your AR....buy quality parts from known good sources. You haven't saved a thing with all the shipping expenses and time + headaches. Good luck |
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I've already gotten 3 different buffer tubes for my build, the first I bought at a gun show, it was supposed to be mil spec but turned out to be com spec so my stock wouldn't fit, the second I ordered off ebay and was supposed to be flat dark earth, but it doesn't match any of my flat dark earth stock or anything, it actually looked gold, but the seller accepted the return.... third one was supposed to be a black mil spec tube and well my buffer got stuck in it.... inside circumference of the tube was obviously too small, and I'm going to have to cut the tube to get my buffer out, and the ebay seller optical factory wasn't any help and refuses to refund it for me a standard a3 buffer would fit but I guess my 5oz heavy buffer is slightly larger than an a3 buffer but I've ran this buffe through other tubes during testing on other guns.... now I need to order a buffer tube and I need to be sure it is one that isn't going to be out of spec and the inside be too small, or it turn out to be com spec or whatever else.. Ok, others have told you... no functional parts off ebay. Now about your buffer... many buffer tubes have a hole at the back of them as part of the production process, or to be used as a scrw hole for a stock or whatever. If that hole is there you can try using a stiff rod to knock the buffer out, or use an air compressor to pressurize it while you smack it on a hard surface. Now the next question is... is the spring behind it? Was the gun fired and it jammed in that position? Did it happen upon using the charging handle? Just curious how much force was applied at the time the jam happened. |
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You need to download the TM which available on this and read it so you know the actual nomenclature for the parts of the weapon.
There is no such thing as a “slightly” larger buffer that is ok. You can google the web for parts drawings so you can do some actual measuring to see what is ok dimensionally. You can buy a kit of the parts you need that will work together from one of the known good vendors from this site. At this point you are obviously not even in the ballpark of being able to tell what is good or bad, so buying from ebay, amazon, or such is just not a good idea. |
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I get free shipping with ebay most of the time and I normally do ebay because its easiest for me... nobody around here locally sells just the tube... free shipping on parts that dont work is kind of pointless though no? any of the reputable vendors already mentioned will be just as easy and looky here - free shipping ETA: just the tube since i know that would come next still free shipping |
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I've already gotten 3 different buffer tubes for my build, the first I bought at a gun show, it was supposed to be mil spec but turned out to be com spec so my stock wouldn't fit, the second I ordered off ebay and was supposed to be flat dark earth, but it doesn't match any of my flat dark earth stock or anything, it actually looked gold, but the seller accepted the return.... third one was supposed to be a black mil spec tube and well my buffer got stuck in it.... inside circumference of the tube was obviously too small, and I'm going to have to cut the tube to get my buffer out, and the ebay seller optical factory wasn't any help and refuses to refund it for me a standard a3 buffer would fit but I guess my 5oz heavy buffer is slightly larger than an a3 buffer but I've ran this buffe through other tubes during testing on other guns.... now I need to order a buffer tube and I need to be sure it is one that isn't going to be out of spec and the inside be too small, or it turn out to be com spec or whatever else.. Do what you need to do to get the buffer out and file a dispute with Ebay. They will side with you no matter what. Doesn't matter if you need to destroy the buffer tube to get it out. |
| I already got my buffer out the tube, a vise, a set of 4 wheel pipe cutters, a brass hammer, and a pipe nipple with a soft bushing (duck tape) over a cap on the end, put the tube in the vice took the 4 wheel cutters and cut it about half an inch behind the lip on the buffer, cut it, and stuck the piece of tube with the buffer in it on the vice and took a 1/4"x3" pipe nipple, put a cap on the end, wrapped in duck tape, stuck it against the metal end of the buffer and after a few GOOD wacks it was out.... luckily I'm a pipefitter and have access to pipe cutting tools and things, a saw would've made it a lot harder and would've ruined my spring |
| as I said it was the tube that was smaller, not my buffer, my buffer runs fine thru other tubes on other guns that we have tested, as far as anything with my buffer being slightly larger maybe the paint on it was the only part that may have made it slightly larger than a standard non painted buffer, but my buffer still runs fine even with the paint in other mil spec tubes so its definitely not my buffer. and as far as buying a kit, all the kits I've seen all come with standard buffers and springs, I'm wanting to run a heavy buffer and enhanced spring, and the other ones that are above standard grade are in the price range of a hydraulic buffer and if I were to spend over $100 on a buffer setup I would just go ahead and get a hydraulic buffer |
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You need to download the TM which available on this and read it so you know the actual nomenclature for the parts of the weapon. There is no such thing as a “slightly” larger buffer that is ok. You can google the web for parts drawings so you can do some actual measuring to see what is ok dimensionally. You can buy a kit of the parts you need that will work together from one of the known good vendors from this site. At this point you are obviously not even in the ballpark of being able to tell what is good or bad, so buying from ebay, amazon, or such is just not a good idea. as I said it was the tube that was smaller, not my buffer, my buffer runs fine thru other tubes on other guns that we have tested, as far as anything with my buffer being slightly larger maybe the paint on it was the only part that may have made it slightly larger than a standard non painted buffer, but my buffer still runs fine even with the paint in other mil spec tubes so its definitely not my buffer. and as far as buying a kit, all the kits I've seen all come with standard buffers and springs, I'm wanting to run a heavy tungsten buffer and enhanced spring, and I like to build my own thing not just assemble some parts, that way I can personalize it and get it the way I want it with the parts I want and have a better weapon because the majority of buffer kits come with a standard carbine buffer, tube, castle nut, standard spring, and standard plate, so If I got one of those, I would end up still having to buy an ambidextrous sling mount plate, upgrade the spring, upgrade the buffer, etc. |
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Ok, others have told you... no functional parts off ebay. Now about your buffer... many buffer tubes have a hole at the back of them as part of the production process, or to be used as a scrw hole for a stock or whatever. If that hole is there you can try using a stiff rod to knock the buffer out, or use an air compressor to pressurize it while you smack it on a hard surface. Now the next question is... is the spring behind it? Was the gun fired and it jammed in that position? Did it happen upon using the charging handle? Just curious how much force was applied at the time the jam happened. Quoted:
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I've already gotten 3 different buffer tubes for my build, the first I bought at a gun show, it was supposed to be mil spec but turned out to be com spec so my stock wouldn't fit, the second I ordered off ebay and was supposed to be flat dark earth, but it doesn't match any of my flat dark earth stock or anything, it actually looked gold, but the seller accepted the return.... third one was supposed to be a black mil spec tube and well my buffer got stuck in it.... inside circumference of the tube was obviously too small, and I'm going to have to cut the tube to get my buffer out, and the ebay seller optical factory wasn't any help and refuses to refund it for me a standard a3 buffer would fit but I guess my 5oz heavy buffer is slightly larger than an a3 buffer but I've ran this buffe through other tubes during testing on other guns.... now I need to order a buffer tube and I need to be sure it is one that isn't going to be out of spec and the inside be too small, or it turn out to be com spec or whatever else.. Ok, others have told you... no functional parts off ebay. Now about your buffer... many buffer tubes have a hole at the back of them as part of the production process, or to be used as a scrw hole for a stock or whatever. If that hole is there you can try using a stiff rod to knock the buffer out, or use an air compressor to pressurize it while you smack it on a hard surface. Now the next question is... is the spring behind it? Was the gun fired and it jammed in that position? Did it happen upon using the charging handle? Just curious how much force was applied at the time the jam happened. I already got my buffer out the tube, a vise, a set of 4 wheel pipe cutters, a brass hammer, and a pipe nipple with a soft bushing (duck tape) over a cap on the end, put the tube in the vice took the 4 wheel cutters and cut it about half an inch behind the lip on the buffer, cut it, and stuck the piece of tube with the buffer in it on the vice and took a 1/4"x3" pipe nipple, put a cap on the end, wrapped in duck tape, stuck it against the metal end of the buffer and after a few GOOD wacks it was out.... luckily I'm a pipefitter and have access to pipe cutting tools and things, a saw would've made it a lot harder and would've ruined my spring |
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free shipping on parts that dont work is kind of pointless though no? any of the reputable vendors already mentioned will be just as easy and looky here - free shipping ETA: just the tube since i know that would come next still free shipping Quoted:
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I get free shipping with ebay most of the time and I normally do ebay because its easiest for me... nobody around here locally sells just the tube... free shipping on parts that dont work is kind of pointless though no? any of the reputable vendors already mentioned will be just as easy and looky here - free shipping ETA: just the tube since i know that would come next still free shipping that was in reply to someone that said that it wouldn't save money buying off ebay once you pay shipping and all, and by easier I have an ebay app on my phone and I don't have to get onto a computer to search sights for parts and I have an ebay account and I can click and pay all from my phone while on my lunch break at work... I don't know why I'm getting so much flak all because I got something off ebay like millions of other people do, theres also name brand things on ebay and you know I was thinking a buffer tube was a buffer tube, didn't really think much about it. |
| I've tried looking on aim website and I can't find where the listing for lower parts is, or any ar parts for that matter, I would like to find their buffer tubes, and I saw they have spikes nickel boron bcgs for 5.45 advertised on their main page for $170 and I tried to find them for 556 but can't find the ar parts category because I wanna snatch up one of those bcgs from them, or get the 545 one for the deal they have and get a 556 bolt for it but I can't even find 556 bolts on their site, and aim has good deals it just sucks how their search is |
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I've tried looking on aim website and I can't find where the listing for lower parts is, or any ar parts for that matter, I would like to find their buffer tubes, and I saw they have spikes nickel boron bcgs for 5.45 advertised on their main page for $170 and I tried to find them for 556 but can't find the ar parts category because I wanna snatch up one of those bcgs from them, or get the 545 one for the deal they have and get a 556 bolt for it but I can't even find 556 bolts on their site, and aim has good deals it just sucks how their search is I posted the link to the lower parts, and receiver extensions in your other thread for you. Not sure how you missed it on their page. |
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I get free shipping with ebay most of the time and I normally do ebay because its easiest for me... nobody around here locally sells just the tube... Well you have been ripped of twice on ebay so how is the free shipping working for you? Why not try one of the vendors on this site, and get something quality, not cheap chinese knock off shit. Buying from vendors you will most likely have to pay a small amount of shipping but at least you know what you are getting. You remind me of an old friend he would spend 3x as much just trying to save a buck, buy once cry once. |
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I've tried looking on aim website and I can't find where the listing for lower parts is, or any ar parts for that matter, I would like to find their buffer tubes, and I saw they have spikes nickel boron bcgs for 5.45 advertised on their main page for $170 and I tried to find them for 556 but can't find the ar parts category because I wanna snatch up one of those bcgs from them, or get the 545 one for the deal they have and get a 556 bolt for it but I can't even find 556 bolts on their site, and aim has good deals it just sucks how their search is It's fairly easy go to > accessories> AR15/M16 parts > and then what your looking fore |
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If you can't navigate AIM's website, or think a buffer tube is a buffer tube; perhaps you should consider letting someone else source your parts and build your AR for you so you can see how it's done.
I was in your place once, so don't get offended. Although I could navigate a website 
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cman426: Don't take all of this feedback as folks bashing you. We are trying to help you but you don't seem to get it. All we are saying is that you more than likely received two knock off Chinese parts which are so infectous o ebay. Noe I'm not saying don't buy anything off eBay. There are quality sellers there selling quality parts (not just gun gear). However, you obviously did not find & purchase from one. Although prices on complete ARs is coming down for now, it's still not a completely affordable endeavor for a lot of shooters.
As you've been told, head to a site sponsor & buy a quality receiver extension. I believe you need a mil-spec example? Aim has some decent prices & free shipping. There are many more vendors who sell quality mil-spec tubes. Most will charge that dreaded shipping, though. At least you get a quality part & don't have to keep buying & buying over & over on suspect gun parts on eBay just to get free shipping. After you buy the second part tpp replace the first crap part you received the free shipping argument goes right out of the porthole. |
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I get free shipping with ebay most of the time and I normally do ebay because its easiest for me... nobody around here locally sells just the tube... How's that free shipping working out for you now ? You new/young guys need to stop trying to always buy the cheapest parts. Save up and buy quality parts. AR parts are not all made by a handful of companies with just different names branded on them later. You guys need to stop buying AR parts from ebay and amazon. Buy from the companies which support this site and you'll get quality parts and won't have to make threads like this one. I know what it's like to be on a strict budget, I've been poor all my life. But I learned it's better to buy a quality item even if it takes a little while longer to save for it. BTW, AIM's site is easy to navigate. Scroll over the list on the left side of the screen and you'll see. Hell the one member made it easy for you and gave you two links. I'm not riding your butt, just giving you a bit of advice. Most of the cheap parts are made in china, buy American and buy quality from companies known for it. |
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Even ordering all PSA you'll be better off.
Guys looking to take you are lurking all over GunBroker too, stay away. You need to learn how to use the internet besides just ebay. I rarely find anything I want locally. The items are too specific, and even when I find them the damn local people mark it way the hell up. Ignore local, and ebay/GB. You try to save $5 on a buffer tube, but it'll probably take an extra month and having to buy another part anyway. ANd you probably won't sell that junk part for as much as you paid. |
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on aims website the only thing to the left I see about ar parts is complete uppers, other than that all I see is this, no category for ar parts
Online Catalog Skip Navigation Links New Specials Accessories Ammunition Rifles Handguns Curio & Relic Firearms Magazines Ammo Cans AIM Gear IN STOCK AR15 Uppers Information FFL Firearm Transfer Dealer Network How Do I Buy Ammo? How Do I Buy Firearms? How Do I Buy Magazines? Contact Info Pick Up Orders FAQ Terms & Conditions Returns & Exchanges Careers other sites like psa or midway or bayou gun runner for example will have to the left, lower parts, upper parts, complete lowers, complete uppers, accessories, grips, sights, optics. |
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on aims website the only thing to the left I see about ar parts is complete uppers, other than that all I see is this, no category for ar parts Online Catalog Skip Navigation Links New Specials Accessories Ammunition Rifles Handguns Curio & Relic Firearms Magazines Ammo Cans AIM Gear IN STOCK AR15 Uppers Information FFL Firearm Transfer Dealer Network How Do I Buy Ammo? How Do I Buy Firearms? How Do I Buy Magazines? Contact Info Pick Up Orders FAQ Terms & Conditions Returns & Exchanges Careers other sites like psa or midway or bayou gun runner for example will have to the left, lower parts, upper parts, complete lowers, complete uppers, accessories, grips, sights, optics. http://www.aimsurplus.com/catalog.aspx?groupid=576&name=Lower+Receiver+Parts |
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I thought a mil spec tube meant everything as far as size, and material was made to military specifications, if it isn't the same material and size then to me that would be false advertisement, and its a shame that American gun parts are made in china, ar was the American made gun with American parts. and the first ebay tube was a good tube, good quality and ran on my lower, it was a fde punisher tube, and the problem was it didn't match my magpul fde stuff. the seller refunded it so I didn't lose any money. the second ebay tube was the crappy one, it was advertised as a mil spec tube and I assumed it was just like any ole mil spec tube, and I don't remember why but for some reason I thought it was made in usa too, and I guess somebody machined the inside too small, or it warped or something... and the first tube I got from the gunshow was fine and the only issue with it was it was commercial spec and my magpul stock wouldn't fit, so i sold it, so i didn't lose any money there and i could've returned it to the seller but they are a 2 hour drive from me and it would be a few months before i would see them at the next show and they would've made it good for me because they will refund or exchange if you have a problem. myself and friends have had good dealings with the gun show seller before. which i don't know where the mixup came from when i got the com spec tube, i was at the gun show on Saturday and bought everything for my lower assembled it Saturday night and brought it back in sunday to find a grip for it besides the standard m4 grip that came with the cmmg parts kit, and i ended up selling it and making $75 off it, and i got in a rush at the end of the show going around buying the parts for another lower and me and the dealer were in a hurry and they were slammed and busy so one of us wasn't paying attention in a hurry.
I'm getting a spikes tube and I'm trying to get the seller to work a deal for another castle nut and ambi end plate, with it and he says it's ergo brand, is this a good brand?? i already have one but my castle nut got scratched up from falling on the bricks on my carport and i don't really like my ambi end plate. and as far as my experience I've gunsmithed my own guns for a few years and majority of my experience is with aks, not much with ars. and with my ar I'm not buying one, i prefer built not bought, its just not the same... take pride when you build something, that's like buying a racecar and not building it yourself... |
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I thought a mil spec tube meant everything as far as size, and material was made to military specifications, if it isn't the same material and size then to me that would be false advertisement, and its a shame that American gun parts are made in china, ar was the American made gun with American parts. and the first ebay tube was a good tube, good quality and ran on my lower, it was a fde punisher tube, and the problem was it didn't match my magpul fde stuff. the seller refunded it so I didn't lose any money. the second ebay tube was the crappy one, it was advertised as a mil spec tube and I assumed it was just like any ole mil spec tube, and I don't remember why but for some reason I thought it was made in usa too, and I guess somebody machined the inside too small, or it warped or something... and the first tube I got from the gunshow was fine and the only issue with it was it was commercial spec and my magpul stock wouldn't fit, so i sold it, so i didn't lose any money there and i could've returned it to the seller but they are a 2 hour drive from me and it would be a few months before i would see them at the next show and they would've made it good for me because they will refund or exchange if you have a problem. myself and friends have had good dealings with the gun show seller before. which i don't know where the mixup came from when i got the com spec tube, i was at the gun show on Saturday and bought everything for my lower assembled it Saturday night and brought it back in sunday to find a grip for it besides the standard m4 grip that came with the cmmg parts kit, and i ended up selling it and making $75 off it, and i got in a rush at the end of the show going around buying the parts for another lower and me and the dealer were in a hurry and they were slammed and busy so one of us wasn't paying attention in a hurry. I'm getting a spikes tube and I'm trying to get the seller to work a deal for another castle nut and ambi end plate, with it and he says it's ergo brand, is this a good brand?? i already have one but my castle nut got scratched up from falling on the bricks on my carport and i don't really like my ambi end plate. and as far as my experience I've gunsmithed my own guns for a few years and majority of my experience is with aks, not much with ars. and with my ar I'm not buying one, i prefer built not bought, its just not the same... take pride when you build something, that's like buying a racecar and not building it yourself... There are some mil-spec tubes that are mil-spec in diameter only. Yes, there is a standard for a true mil-spec receiver extension, but mostly as it pertains to the AR industry with regard to diameter which is approximately 1.14"- there is really no standard with commercial tubes other than an approximate 1.17" diameter. Some are made in the USA & most come from Taiwan or mainland China among a few other places. . |
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on aims website the only thing to the left I see about ar parts is complete uppers, other than that all I see is this, no category for ar parts Online Catalog Skip Navigation Links New Specials Accessories Ammunition Rifles Handguns Curio & Relic Firearms Magazines Ammo Cans AIM Gear IN STOCK AR15 Uppers Information FFL Firearm Transfer Dealer Network How Do I Buy Ammo? How Do I Buy Firearms? How Do I Buy Magazines? Contact Info Pick Up Orders FAQ Terms & Conditions Returns & Exchanges Careers other sites like psa or midway or bayou gun runner for example will have to the left, lower parts, upper parts, complete lowers, complete uppers, accessories, grips, sights, optics. I hot linked the page for you in your OTHER thread |
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on aims website the only thing to the left I see about ar parts is complete uppers, other than that all I see is this, no category for ar parts Online Catalog Skip Navigation Links New Specials Accessories Ammunition Rifles Handguns Curio & Relic Firearms Magazines Ammo Cans AIM Gear IN STOCK AR15 Uppers Information FFL Firearm Transfer Dealer Network How Do I Buy Ammo? How Do I Buy Firearms? How Do I Buy Magazines? Contact Info Pick Up Orders FAQ Terms & Conditions Returns & Exchanges Careers other sites like psa or midway or bayou gun runner for example will have to the left, lower parts, upper parts, complete lowers, complete uppers, accessories, grips, sights, optics. I hot linked the page for you in your OTHER thread yea I saw but people were giving me crap because I couldn't find the ar parts on their site and I was showing that there isn't a tab on there for ar parts that I can see in my defense |
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There are some mil-spec tubes that are mil-spec in diameter only. Yes, there is a standard for a true mil-spec receiver extension, but mostly as it pertains to the AR industry with regard to diameter which is approximately 1.14"- there is really no standard with commercial tubes other than an approximate 1.17" diameter. Some are made in the USA & most come from Taiwan or mainland China among a few other places. . yeah I thought mil spec which is what I was supposed to be getting meant it was to military specifications... and to me it seemed as though the tube was pot metal, (cast) quality... cheap JUNK and this is the one thing on the whole damn gun that I've went with a non-brand on. everything else is spikes, magpul, brownells (castle nut and end plate), Anderson (lpk with stainless trigger group), wolf (hammer spring). and i googled spikes buffer tube on sale and found a whole spikes buffer kit for $68.00 which is only $28.00 more than a buffer tube.... now question what buffer spring would be better?? the spikes or my wolf enhanced spring?? |
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How's that free shipping working out for you now ? You new/young guys need to stop trying to always buy the cheapest parts. Save up and buy quality parts. AR parts are not all made by a handful of companies with just different names branded on them later. You guys need to stop buying AR parts from ebay and amazon. Buy from the companies which support this site and you'll get quality parts and won't have to make threads like this one. I know what it's like to be on a strict budget, I've been poor all my life. But I learned it's better to buy a quality item even if it takes a little while longer to save for it. BTW, AIM's site is easy to navigate. Scroll over the list on the left side of the screen and you'll see. Hell the one member made it easy for you and gave you two links. I'm not riding your butt, just giving you a bit of advice. Most of the cheap parts are made in china, buy American and buy quality from companies known for it. Quoted:
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I get free shipping with ebay most of the time and I normally do ebay because its easiest for me... nobody around here locally sells just the tube... How's that free shipping working out for you now ? You new/young guys need to stop trying to always buy the cheapest parts. Save up and buy quality parts. AR parts are not all made by a handful of companies with just different names branded on them later. You guys need to stop buying AR parts from ebay and amazon. Buy from the companies which support this site and you'll get quality parts and won't have to make threads like this one. I know what it's like to be on a strict budget, I've been poor all my life. But I learned it's better to buy a quality item even if it takes a little while longer to save for it. BTW, AIM's site is easy to navigate. Scroll over the list on the left side of the screen and you'll see. Hell the one member made it easy for you and gave you two links. I'm not riding your butt, just giving you a bit of advice. Most of the cheap parts are made in china, buy American and buy quality from companies known for it. as I said I only lost money on the one buffer tube that I had to cut open, and this buffer tube was the only part that I bought as a no name part the rest of the gun is spikes, magpul, Anderson, and a castle nut and endplate from brownellls. you know I thought a mil spec tube meant it was made to military specs meaning material and size was to military specifications. and I was under the impression this tube was made in the usa when I got it, the first ebay tube was fine, it was a fde punisher tube, and it was good quality and worked fine, but the fde didn't match my magpul fde so the seller refunded it. the first tube I got at the gunshow I somehow got a commercial spec tube by accident and the seller would'[ve exchanged it but he's 2 hours away and the next gun show wasn't til a few months when I would see him so I sold the tube and got my money back. and really I think the crappy tube I got that I had to cut that they should still refund it being it wasn't to mil spec which I may still file a claim with ebay on it, just because of the seller's crappy customer service and deception. which is really one reason I made this thread was to warn people about them. |
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cman426: Don't take all of this feedback as folks bashing you. We are trying to help you but you don't seem to get it. All we are saying is that you more than likely received two knock off Chinese parts which are so infectous o ebay. Noe I'm not saying don't buy anything off eBay. There are quality sellers there selling quality parts (not just gun gear). However, you obviously did not find & purchase from one. Although prices on complete ARs is coming down for now, it's still not a completely affordable endeavor for a lot of shooters. As you've been told, head to a site sponsor & buy a quality receiver extension. I believe you need a mil-spec example? Aim has some decent prices & free shipping. There are many more vendors who sell quality mil-spec tubes. Most will charge that dreaded shipping, though. At least you get a quality part & don't have to keep buying & buying over & over on suspect gun parts on eBay just to get free shipping. After you buy the second part tpp replace the first crap part you received the free shipping argument goes right out of the porthole. as I said only one off ebay was actually bad, the only problem with the first was the color didn't match. and I don't mind shipping my comment about free shipping was in reply to someone saying that with buying lower priced items off ebay it isn't any less by time you pay shipping and I was just replying that with my account I get free shipping most of the time. and it seems everytime I say something they keep bashing me and giving me flak and twisting what I say. and as said this one part was the only part that isn't a spikes or magpul or Anderson, or cmmg, or brownells that I've gotten for the gun. everything else has been name brand so far.... and honestly I thought a mil spec tube was a mil spec tube as in everything was military spec and with the more expensive ones you were just paying for the name, because I remember a while back reading about how a lot of buffer tubes were made by the same people. and also a lot of upper receivers were made by the same companies just marketed under different names. |
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If you can't navigate AIM's website, or think a buffer tube is a buffer tube; perhaps you should consider letting someone else source your parts and build your AR for you so you can see how it's done. I was in your place once, so don't get offended. Although I could navigate a website that's just being an ass dude. |
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I get free shipping with ebay most of the time and I normally do ebay because its easiest for me... nobody around here locally sells just the tube... Who cares how easy it is? Has it been easy now that you've gone through 3 buffer tubes and still don't have a functioning rifle? There is no way that buying off ebay is any easier than purchasing from any number of reputable parts retailers. Try DSG Arms, PSA, BCM, Rainier, etc. ETA: I see you do it from your phone on your lunch. I have ordered parts off of every single one of those websites from my cellphone at work, it isn't hard. You obviously don't have an issue typing out paragraphs on arfcom, so you either have enough time to go shop for a buffer tube right now on a reputable site since you're on a real computer or your issue with browsing on your cell phone isn't as big an issue as you make it seem. What I'm trying to say is, take the advice we have been giving you. The reason we are all giving you the same advice is not because you are right and we are wrong. The problem is eBay is full of junk and you really can't ensure what you're getting is quality. Stop with all the junk and go to any one of the links people have posted and fix the issue. |
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as I said only one off ebay was actually bad, the only problem with the first was the color didn't match. and I don't mind shipping my comment about free shipping was in reply to someone saying that with buying lower priced items off ebay it isn't any less by time you pay shipping and I was just replying that with my account I get free shipping most of the time. and it seems everytime I say something they keep bashing me and giving me flak and twisting what I say. and as said this one part was the only part that isn't a spikes or magpul or Anderson, or cmmg, or brownells that I've gotten for the gun. everything else has been name brand so far.... and honestly I thought a mil spec tube was a mil spec tube as in everything was military spec and with the more expensive ones you were just paying for the name, because I remember a while back reading about how a lot of buffer tubes were made by the same people. and also a lot of upper receivers were made by the same companies just marketed under different names. Quoted:
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cman426: Don't take all of this feedback as folks bashing you. We are trying to help you but you don't seem to get it. All we are saying is that you more than likely received two knock off Chinese parts which are so infectous o ebay. Noe I'm not saying don't buy anything off eBay. There are quality sellers there selling quality parts (not just gun gear). However, you obviously did not find & purchase from one. Although prices on complete ARs is coming down for now, it's still not a completely affordable endeavor for a lot of shooters. As you've been told, head to a site sponsor & buy a quality receiver extension. I believe you need a mil-spec example? Aim has some decent prices & free shipping. There are many more vendors who sell quality mil-spec tubes. Most will charge that dreaded shipping, though. At least you get a quality part & don't have to keep buying & buying over & over on suspect gun parts on eBay just to get free shipping. After you buy the second part tpp replace the first crap part you received the free shipping argument goes right out of the porthole. as I said only one off ebay was actually bad, the only problem with the first was the color didn't match. and I don't mind shipping my comment about free shipping was in reply to someone saying that with buying lower priced items off ebay it isn't any less by time you pay shipping and I was just replying that with my account I get free shipping most of the time. and it seems everytime I say something they keep bashing me and giving me flak and twisting what I say. and as said this one part was the only part that isn't a spikes or magpul or Anderson, or cmmg, or brownells that I've gotten for the gun. everything else has been name brand so far.... and honestly I thought a mil spec tube was a mil spec tube as in everything was military spec and with the more expensive ones you were just paying for the name, because I remember a while back reading about how a lot of buffer tubes were made by the same people. and also a lot of upper receivers were made by the same companies just marketed under different names. Dude, you're obviously not listening to any of the advice that has been given so why are you still posting? Nobody is attacking you and nobody is giving you flak. You came in here asking for OUR advice and when it isn't what you want to hear you continue to go on doing the same thing that got you here in the first place asking questions, then wonder why we get a little aggravated you aren't listening. Just because a seller lists it as "mil-spec" on eBay, that doesn't actually mean it's made to any sort of specification what so ever. Go with a well known company, even if it costs $20 more, and be done with it. I'd have been frustrated as hell right now if I were in your shoes having to constantly be searching for a simple part that takes 5 minutes to order. |
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Buy once cry once. BTW Mil Spec should not necessarily be equated to top of the line quality. With regard to receiver extension, yes it does. However, you must remember that when talking about the AR we're mostly referring to the diameter of the tube vs. the commercial diameter since it's essential that the buyer purchases the correct one to for their particular stock. |
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Who cares how easy it is? Has it been easy now that you've gone through 3 buffer tubes and still don't have a functioning rifle? There is no way that buying off ebay is any easier than purchasing from any number of reputable parts retailers. Try DSG Arms, PSA, BCM, Rainier, etc. ETA: I see you do it from your phone on your lunch. I have ordered parts off of every single one of those websites from my cellphone at work, it isn't hard. You obviously don't have an issue typing out paragraphs on arfcom, so you either have enough time to go shop for a buffer tube right now on a reputable site since you're on a real computer or your issue with browsing on your cell phone isn't as big an issue as you make it seem. What I'm trying to say is, take the advice we have been giving you. The reason we are all giving you the same advice is not because you are right and we are wrong. The problem is eBay is full of junk and you really can't ensure what you're getting is quality. Stop with all the junk and go to any one of the links people have posted and fix the issue. Quoted:
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I get free shipping with ebay most of the time and I normally do ebay because its easiest for me... nobody around here locally sells just the tube... Who cares how easy it is? Has it been easy now that you've gone through 3 buffer tubes and still don't have a functioning rifle? There is no way that buying off ebay is any easier than purchasing from any number of reputable parts retailers. Try DSG Arms, PSA, BCM, Rainier, etc. ETA: I see you do it from your phone on your lunch. I have ordered parts off of every single one of those websites from my cellphone at work, it isn't hard. You obviously don't have an issue typing out paragraphs on arfcom, so you either have enough time to go shop for a buffer tube right now on a reputable site since you're on a real computer or your issue with browsing on your cell phone isn't as big an issue as you make it seem. What I'm trying to say is, take the advice we have been giving you. The reason we are all giving you the same advice is not because you are right and we are wrong. The problem is eBay is full of junk and you really can't ensure what you're getting is quality. Stop with all the junk and go to any one of the links people have posted and fix the issue. in the past when I got the ebay tubes was before I even knew about this site ok. and only time I get on this site is from my computer, which I just got fixed so my computer was down, and my phone is a slow pos when it comes to using the internet, and using an app isn't as bad like with ebay.... and from my phone, aim's website all you see is the aim website icon, and a few of the guns and things they have on specials, you can't even see their category links from my phone, and in my defense I got on aim's website and finally found the ar parts link, and it's under accessories which is why I couldn't find it, because normally hard parts isn't under accessories on a website usually accessories is grips, lasers slings, cases, apparel and things like that, I wasn't looking for accessories so I didn't look at it |
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maybe it's the way they keep down talking me and acting like jerks toward me... I bought ONE non brand part on ebay and I've never had problems with ebay before and everyone acts like its the end of the world, I'm sorry I didn't know there was that much of a difference between different buffer tubes.... I thought there was commercial spec and mil spec, and commercial spec was larger and made from cast metal, and mil spec was smaller and made from forged metal... I'm sorry that I didn;'t know a non-moving part was so complicated. as with my lpk, receiver, bcg is all quality brand stuff, spikes lower, Anderson upper, cmmg barrel, either a cmmg or spikes bcg I'm running, magpul, red jacket, or colt magazines. Anderson lpk with stainless steel trigger group. magpul stock trigger guard and grip. brownells castle nut and end plate, spikes handguard. and now a spikes buffer tube is next.. and then kns non rotate pins. Dude, you're obviously not listening to any of the advice that has been given so why are you still posting? Nobody is attacking you and nobody is giving you flak. You came in here asking for OUR advice and when it isn't what you want to hear you continue to go on doing the same thing that got you here in the first place asking questions, then wonder why we get a little aggravated you aren't listening. Just because a seller lists it as "mil-spec" on eBay, that doesn't actually mean it's made to any sort of specification what so ever. Go with a well known company, even if it costs $20 more, and be done with it. I'd have been frustrated as hell right now if I were in your shoes having to constantly be searching for a simple part that takes 5 minutes to order. Quoted:
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cman426: Don't take all of this feedback as folks bashing you. We are trying to help you but you don't seem to get it. All we are saying is that you more than likely received two knock off Chinese parts which are so infectous o ebay. Noe I'm not saying don't buy anything off eBay. There are quality sellers there selling quality parts (not just gun gear). However, you obviously did not find & purchase from one. Although prices on complete ARs is coming down for now, it's still not a completely affordable endeavor for a lot of shooters. As you've been told, head to a site sponsor & buy a quality receiver extension. I believe you need a mil-spec example? Aim has some decent prices & free shipping. There are many more vendors who sell quality mil-spec tubes. Most will charge that dreaded shipping, though. At least you get a quality part & don't have to keep buying & buying over & over on suspect gun parts on eBay just to get free shipping. After you buy the second part tpp replace the first crap part you received the free shipping argument goes right out of the porthole. as I said only one off ebay was actually bad, the only problem with the first was the color didn't match. and I don't mind shipping my comment about free shipping was in reply to someone saying that with buying lower priced items off ebay it isn't any less by time you pay shipping and I was just replying that with my account I get free shipping most of the time. and it seems everytime I say something they keep bashing me and giving me flak and twisting what I say. and as said this one part was the only part that isn't a spikes or magpul or Anderson, or cmmg, or brownells that I've gotten for the gun. everything else has been name brand so far.... and honestly I thought a mil spec tube was a mil spec tube as in everything was military spec and with the more expensive ones you were just paying for the name, because I remember a while back reading about how a lot of buffer tubes were made by the same people. and also a lot of upper receivers were made by the same companies just marketed under different names. maybe it's the way they keep down talking me and acting like jerks toward me... I bought ONE non brand part on ebay and I've never had problems with ebay before and everyone acts like its the end of the world, I'm sorry I didn't know there was that much of a difference between different buffer tubes.... I thought there was commercial spec and mil spec, and commercial spec was larger and made from cast metal, and mil spec was smaller and made from forged metal... I'm sorry that I didn;'t know a non-moving part was so complicated. as with my lpk, receiver, bcg is all quality brand stuff, spikes lower, Anderson upper, cmmg barrel, either a cmmg or spikes bcg I'm running, magpul, red jacket, or colt magazines. Anderson lpk with stainless steel trigger group. magpul stock trigger guard and grip. brownells castle nut and end plate, spikes handguard. and now a spikes buffer tube is next.. and then kns non rotate pins. Dude, you're obviously not listening to any of the advice that has been given so why are you still posting? Nobody is attacking you and nobody is giving you flak. You came in here asking for OUR advice and when it isn't what you want to hear you continue to go on doing the same thing that got you here in the first place asking questions, then wonder why we get a little aggravated you aren't listening. Just because a seller lists it as "mil-spec" on eBay, that doesn't actually mean it's made to any sort of specification what so ever. Go with a well known company, even if it costs $20 more, and be done with it. I'd have been frustrated as hell right now if I were in your shoes having to constantly be searching for a simple part that takes 5 minutes to order. |
| anyway back to the question on which tube to go with, I'm undecided between a bcm, a spikes, and a pof, the spikes claims they have the dry lube coating, is there a real benefit to this?? or is it just a selling point?? and I would like a spikes to go with my spikes lower.... then there;s the pof anti tilt http://www.pof-usa.com/shop/index.php?id_product=8&controller=product that I'm looking at, and the bcm is just a regular mil spec tube nothing different about it... which its really between the spikes or the pof tube..... but what sucks is none of them put there name or logo on the buffer tubes so theres no way for them to be distinguished from other tubes when others see your gun or if you ever try to sell it... how is ole jack going to know if that's really a $40 buffer tube or just an ole $12 ebay special just by looking at it... plus if it had the logo I could get the bcg to match it, if I get a spikes it would match my lower and bcg, if I get a bcm it would match my bcg or a pof I could get a pof bcg to match... |
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on aims website the only thing to the left I see about ar parts is complete uppers, other than that all I see is this, no category for ar parts Online Catalog Skip Navigation Links New Specials Accessories Ammunition Rifles Handguns Curio & Relic Firearms Magazines Ammo Cans AIM Gear IN STOCK AR15 Uppers Information FFL Firearm Transfer Dealer Network How Do I Buy Ammo? How Do I Buy Firearms? How Do I Buy Magazines? Contact Info Pick Up Orders FAQ Terms & Conditions Returns & Exchanges Careers other sites like psa or midway or bayou gun runner for example will have to the left, lower parts, upper parts, complete lowers, complete uppers, accessories, grips, sights, optics. I hot linked the page for you in your OTHER thread yea I saw but people were giving me crap because I couldn't find the ar parts on their site and I was showing that there isn't a tab on there for ar parts that I can see in my defense As stated AR15 parts are under the accessories section Quoted:
anyway back to the question on which tube to go with, I'm undecided between a bcm, a spikes, and a pof, the spikes claims they have the dry lube coating, is there a real benefit to this?? or is it just a selling point?? and I would like a spikes to go with my spikes lower.... then there;s the pof anti tilt http://www.pof-usa.com/shop/index.php?id_product=8&controller=product that I'm looking at, and the bcm is just a regular mil spec tube nothing different about it... which its really between the spikes or the pof tube..... but what sucks is none of them put there name or logo on the buffer tubes so theres no way for them to be distinguished from other tubes when others see your gun or if you ever try to sell it... how is ole jack going to know if that's really a $40 buffer tube or just an ole $12 ebay special just by looking at it... plus if it had the logo I could get the bcg to match it, if I get a spikes it would match my lower and bcg, if I get a bcm it would match my bcg or a pof I could get a pof bcg to match... Why are you worrying about thing matching if they have no markings to show that, just get the cheapest one that is not from FleaBay Or buy another FleaBay special and then you can come back here and complain you got screwed again. I can guarantee you that if it is $12 it's a Chinese knock off, because material, machine time, and labor cost more than $12 here to make one. The manufacturing cost here is roughly $25-35 a piece. |
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anyway back to the question on which tube to go with, I'm undecided between a bcm, a spikes, and a pof, the spikes claims they have the dry lube coating, is there a real benefit to this?? or is it just a selling point?? and I would like a spikes to go with my spikes lower.... then there;s the pof anti tilt http://www.pof-usa.com/shop/index.php?id_product=8&controller=product that I'm looking at, and the bcm is just a regular mil spec tube nothing different about it... which its really between the spikes or the pof tube..... but what sucks is none of them put there name or logo on the buffer tubes so theres no way for them to be distinguished from other tubes when others see your gun or if you ever try to sell it... how is ole jack going to know if that's really a $40 buffer tube or just an ole $12 ebay special just by looking at it... plus if it had the logo I could get the bcg to match it, if I get a spikes it would match my lower and bcg, if I get a bcm it would match my bcg or a pof I could get a pof bcg to match... OK, you are one of the very few having these problems so I'll outline it for you. Brands between BCG, receiver extension, lower, or any other part of the rifle won't matter as long as they are made by a quality manufacturer and they are designed to work with what you have. So, knowing that, just because you get a POF receiver extension, it DOES NOT mean you need a POF BCG. You can run a Spikes BCG with a POF, DD, BCM, etc. or any other known manufactured RE that is made to spec. I understand why you're confused because shit hasn't been fitiing for you (because of the crappy parts.) Well let me assure you, as long as you go with a quality manufacturer, they WILL work together. As to you other question on how you will know whether is good one or knock off, there is really only one answer. Because most manufactures make identical REs with no brand markings, the only way to know is to purchase it from a known good retailer. THAT is really going to be the only way you can ensure you're getting a good one. I'll also add, since you're having trouble navigating AIM's website, try another one that may work for you. They are not the only good retailer out there. Other examples include: Operation Parts BCM Rainier Arms DSG Arms (My favorite) PSA (They have slow shipping but they are still great) Weapon Outfitters Joe Bob Outfitters And those aren't all of them. Go with one of the guys I mentioned above and I can guarantee you won't have any more fitment issues. |
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As stated AR15 parts are under the accessories section Why are you worrying about thing matching if they have no markings to show that, just get the cheapest one that is not from FleaBay Or buy another FleaBay special and then you can come back here and complain you got screwed again. I can guarantee you that if it is $12 it's a Chinese knock off, because material, machine time, and labor cost more than $12 here to make one. The manufacturing cost here is roughly $25-35 a piece. Quoted:
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on aims website the only thing to the left I see about ar parts is complete uppers, other than that all I see is this, no category for ar parts Online Catalog Skip Navigation Links New Specials Accessories Ammunition Rifles Handguns Curio & Relic Firearms Magazines Ammo Cans AIM Gear IN STOCK AR15 Uppers Information FFL Firearm Transfer Dealer Network How Do I Buy Ammo? How Do I Buy Firearms? How Do I Buy Magazines? Contact Info Pick Up Orders FAQ Terms & Conditions Returns & Exchanges Careers other sites like psa or midway or bayou gun runner for example will have to the left, lower parts, upper parts, complete lowers, complete uppers, accessories, grips, sights, optics. I hot linked the page for you in your OTHER thread yea I saw but people were giving me crap because I couldn't find the ar parts on their site and I was showing that there isn't a tab on there for ar parts that I can see in my defense As stated AR15 parts are under the accessories section Quoted:
anyway back to the question on which tube to go with, I'm undecided between a bcm, a spikes, and a pof, the spikes claims they have the dry lube coating, is there a real benefit to this?? or is it just a selling point?? and I would like a spikes to go with my spikes lower.... then there;s the pof anti tilt http://www.pof-usa.com/shop/index.php?id_product=8&controller=product that I'm looking at, and the bcm is just a regular mil spec tube nothing different about it... which its really between the spikes or the pof tube..... but what sucks is none of them put there name or logo on the buffer tubes so theres no way for them to be distinguished from other tubes when others see your gun or if you ever try to sell it... how is ole jack going to know if that's really a $40 buffer tube or just an ole $12 ebay special just by looking at it... plus if it had the logo I could get the bcg to match it, if I get a spikes it would match my lower and bcg, if I get a bcm it would match my bcg or a pof I could get a pof bcg to match... Why are you worrying about thing matching if they have no markings to show that, just get the cheapest one that is not from FleaBay Or buy another FleaBay special and then you can come back here and complain you got screwed again. I can guarantee you that if it is $12 it's a Chinese knock off, because material, machine time, and labor cost more than $12 here to make one. The manufacturing cost here is roughly $25-35 a piece. I already figured that out about aim's site... and no I'm not going with a cheap one now, I'm done with el cheapo buffer tubes |
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OK, you are one of the very few having these problems so I'll outline it for you. Brands between BCG, receiver extension, lower, or any other part of the rifle won't matter as long as they are made by a quality manufacturer and they are designed to work with what you have. So, knowing that, just because you get a POF receiver extension, it DOES NOT mean you need a POF BCG. You can run a Spikes BCG with a POF, DD, BCM, etc. or any other known manufactured RE that is made to spec. And those aren't all of them. Go with one of the guys I mentioned above and I can guarantee you won't have any more fitment issues. |
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As to you other question on how you will know whether is good one or knock off, there is really only one answer. Because most manufactures make identical REs with no brand markings, the only way to know is to purchase it from a known good retailer. THAT is really going to be the only way you can ensure you're getting a good one. I'll also add, since you're having trouble navigating AIM's website, try another one that may work for you. They are not the only good retailer out there. Other examples include: . Quoted:
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but what sucks is none of them put there name or logo on the buffer tubes so theres no way for them to be distinguished from other tubes when others see your gun or if you ever try to sell it... how is ole jack going to know if that's really a $40 buffer tube or just an ole $12 ebay special just by looking at it... plus if it had the logo I could get the bcg to match it, if I get a spikes it would match my lower and bcg, if I get a bcm it would match my bcg or a pof I could get a pof bcg to match... As to you other question on how you will know whether is good one or knock off, there is really only one answer. Because most manufactures make identical REs with no brand markings, the only way to know is to purchase it from a known good retailer. THAT is really going to be the only way you can ensure you're getting a good one. I'll also add, since you're having trouble navigating AIM's website, try another one that may work for you. They are not the only good retailer out there. Other examples include: . i'll know its a good one, but someone else looking at it wont know that, especially if I ever go to sell or trade it, and if I pay for the brand I would like to have the brand name on it to see, another thing is what if I have a problem, a defect, a flaw, it breaks, it gets messed up in shipping etc, how do they know it's their part I'm returning?? which the ebay tube one reason I got it is because the picture on ebay the RE in the picture had made in usa engraved on it, the one I got... well yall know the story. and it wasn't exactly a 12 dollar tube I use examples ok and I really didn't think about it being cheap theres complete buffer assemblies on psa's site for around $30-35 with a stock and everything and psa is a reputable site that has been recommended on here... so comparing a RE tube for under $20 to a complete stock kit for $35 it kinda adds up.... |
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