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Posted: 10/1/2013 11:45:49 AM EDT
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This won't be completed any time soon but wanted to get some input on how well these components go together and if anyone has personal experience with some of these combos. Here's what I'm looking at. (All 5.56 components where it applies)
LOWER: MEGA Forged Lower Geiselle SD-E or SD-C Trigger JP LPK w/out trigger or Stock Ergo Tact. Deluxe Grip (my hands are huge) Magpul ACS-L or CTR Stock (mil-spec) PSA Buffer Tube Assy. (mil-spec) Magpul Enhanced Trigger Guard BAD Lever UPPER: BCM BFH 16" Mid Length Upper w/BCG (if I can find a BCM BCG, recommendations if not?) VTAC Alpha Handguard (not set on this one, will consider other options) Leupold VXR 2-7x33mm (possibly add some sort of holographic sight at some point) SureFire/Dueck Defense RTS BUIS 45deg I will be using this rifle for sport shooting, training, coyote hunting, and also self defense/SHTF situations. I'm building it with the purpose of having an all around useful and high quality weapon. I am not new to the AR platform or guns in general but this will be my first build from ground up. I'm aware that availability is limited on some of these parts which is my reason for some of the parts that may not be obvious choices. Any helpful information on fit and finish of these components together will be appreciated. Thanks. |
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I'd consider a PWS 7075 billet receiver extension. It'll add a nice sling mount position and eliminate the castle nut system. I'd add a JP Silent buffer.
I swapped out a Magpul UBR for a ACS for weight reduction. I find the ACS has a far better cheek weld than the CTR. I felt it was worth the few ounces of weight. I'd look at the Noveske NSR rail for weight savings. Get yourself a BAD CASS ST selector and modify it to fit your lower (file off the lawyer pin.) Throw a host of ambidextrous controls on it like a Norgon magazine release and a Raptor charging handle. A BCM bolt/carrier would be a good choice. A JP M16 bolt would be even better. We're talking ball bearing smooth for an action. Their carriers have more contact surface area with the inside of the receiver. I added a DI compatible Rollercam and key, and a Set of Ion Bonded gas rings from Spikes. Then a BCM extractor upgrade kit to the bolt. The rifle is boringly reliable even with garbage steel case ammo. You can charge the action with one finger with little effort. Here is one of my higher end DI builds. 
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| Do you already own the bcm bfh upper? If not, bcm gives you the option to add a bcg and gunfighter charging handle for $219 when you purchase their upper. That's the way to get a bcm bcg at a decent price. Otherwise they do pop up here on EE here quite often for $200ish. |
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Here is one of my higher end DI builds. http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/Noveske/009-2_zpsa50ce9ff.jpg Is that the SD-E, SD-C, or SD-3G trigger? Good looking piece of machinery you got there. |
| I have the VTAC Alpha on a BCM upper and love it, nice and smooth compared to a quad rail. I have it on a Noveske Gen 2 and they fit like a matched set. I have an ALG ACT trigger (very nice) and an STR stock. Have you considered the STR? The cheek rest is great. |
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I don't own the BCM upper yet but from what I understand their BCG's are on a long back order. I did find one here in the EE however. You can not individually purchase the BCM bcg's (well you can but they are out of stock) currently but if you select the complete upper receive group that you want, there is a drop down menu that allows you to select a bcm bcg and the bcm gunfighter charging handle for $219. So that is your best and most cost efficient option at getting the bcm complete upper with bcg and charging handle. I really like the B5 sopmod stock. I've owned all magpul models, vltors, and b5's. Depending on personal preference you can't go wrong with any of them but i belive the sopmod has the most cheek weld with the least weight of those stocks. The vltor e-mod and magpul ACS have similar cheek weld but weigh more (i don't know this for sure, i'm basing it on feel). You can't go wrong with any of those stocks; its just personal preference. |
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Is that the SD-E, SD-C, or SD-3G trigger? Good looking piece of machinery you got there. Quoted:
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Here is one of my higher end DI builds. http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/Noveske/009-2_zpsa50ce9ff.jpg Is that the SD-E, SD-C, or SD-3G trigger? Good looking piece of machinery you got there. Thanks. It is a SD-3G. No issues with being too light or too fast. The reset is awesome. A couple closer shots. 
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Thanks. It is a SD-3G. No issues with being too light or too fast. The reset is awesome. A couple closer shots. http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/Noveske/007-3_zpsbb08c628.jpg http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/Noveske/003-2_zpsfef7fe87.jpg http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/Noveske/004-2_zpsa9d9cb14.jpg Quoted:
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Here is one of my higher end DI builds. http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/Noveske/009-2_zpsa50ce9ff.jpg Is that the SD-E, SD-C, or SD-3G trigger? Good looking piece of machinery you got there. Thanks. It is a SD-3G. No issues with being too light or too fast. The reset is awesome. A couple closer shots. http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/Noveske/007-3_zpsbb08c628.jpg http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/Noveske/003-2_zpsfef7fe87.jpg http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/Noveske/004-2_zpsa9d9cb14.jpg Have you had any experience with the SD-C vs the SD-3G? |
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Yes, I fingered the SD-C at SHOT. Great trigger. Primary difference is the pull weight is a little heavier and it doesn't have the mind blowing trigger reset of the SD3G. Some find the SD3G to be a little scary or having no place on a duty rifle.l due to how unforgiving the trigger can be. If you're the type that accidentally finds their finger on the trigger when not making a shot, stay away. It's not a hair trigger by any means, but it requires very little movements to trip the sear.
I prefer the SD series over the SSA units I have. The SSA are great triggers, but the SD is better in my opinion for my brand of shooting style. |
| I'm a Glock guy and I do like the two stage triggers so I think I'll go with the SD-E or SD-C. Did you think the SD-C was too heavy of a pull for the price point? I've heard of some people using the SD-E in their combat style guns even though they have a super light candy cane like trigger. I'm gonna have to find a way to try these things out. I'm thinking the SD-C may be best for all around use. |
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You won't be unhappy with the combat trigger. You'll retain the two stage feel. The price is a bit steep compared to just a regular SSA. Buy once, cry once is generally the feeling for these upper end builds.
The coating is two part. The base layer was a nickel boron finish to the upper, lower, receiver extension, barrel nut, charging handle and bolt carrier. Then a to coat of burnt bronze Cerakote was applied to just the exterior of the upper , lower, receiver extension, NSR rail, Mossie Tactics light mount, the bases of the Troy Industries BUIS's. Black Cerakote was applied to the visible portion of the charging handle. The barrel is actually a stainless Noveske 16" NST barrel. It was treated in nitride to give it the black finish. Same for the gas tube. From a smoothness stand point, the build is top of the line. Internally coated in nickel boron, operating a JP m16 bolt/carrier, JP silent buffer, the carrier was enhanced with a POF Rollercam and a POF enhanced gas key to allow for operations on a DI rifle. The gas rings were upgraded to a set of Spikes ion bonded units. I then polished receiver contact points with 1000 grit polish. The action is so smooth that you can charge it with one finger with little effort. Coupled with the quiet smooth action, I added a titanium Talon brake from Supercomp to minimize barrel movement. This titanium brake only adds 3.6 ounces of weight. Yet if you look at it, you'd swear to Mohammad that it adds much more. When the shot breaks, you think something is wrong with the weapon and that it didn't fire properly due to lack of movement and no "sproing" noise in the buffer. Pressing the trigger again cures that. Loaded with a 30 round magazine, the rifle weighs in at 7 - 7.5 pounds. Ergonomics of the rifle are outstanding. The cean lines of then noveske NSR are a welcome grip. Far better than the poor ergonomics offered by traditional quad rail designs. |
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That's a solid build StrangerDanger!!
What are your thoughts on the JP Silent Buffer ? Also, I guess the message i sent never went through, anyways, I'm definitely asking you for help on my next build!!! 
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You won't be unhappy with the combat trigger. You'll retain the two stage feel. The price is a bit steep compared to just a regular SSA. Buy once, cry once is generally the feeling for these upper end builds. The coating is two part. The base layer was a nickel boron finish to the upper, lower, receiver extension, barrel nut, charging handle and bolt carrier. Then a to coat of burnt bronze Cerakote was applied to just the exterior of the upper , lower, receiver extension, NSR rail, Mossie Tactics light mount, the bases of the Troy Industries BUIS's. Black Cerakote was applied to the visible portion of the charging handle. The barrel is actually a stainless Noveske 16" NST barrel. It was treated in nitride to give it the black finish. Same for the gas tube. From a smoothness stand point, the build is top of the line. Internally coated in nickel boron, operating a JP m16 bolt/carrier, JP silent buffer, the carrier was enhanced with a POF Rollercam and a POF enhanced gas key to allow for operations on a DI rifle. The gas rings were upgraded to a set of Spikes ion bonded units. I then polished receiver contact points with 1000 grit polish. The action is so smooth that you can charge it with one finger with little effort. Coupled with the quiet smooth action, I added a titanium Talon brake from Supercomp to minimize barrel movement. This titanium brake only adds 3.6 ounces of weight. Yet if you look at it, you'd swear to Mohammad that it adds much more. When the shot breaks, you think something is wrong with the weapon and that it didn't fire properly due to lack of movement and no "sproing" noise in the buffer. Pressing the trigger again cures that. Loaded with a 30 round magazine, the rifle weighs in at 7 - 7.5 pounds. Ergonomics of the rifle are outstanding. The cean lines of then noveske NSR are a welcome grip. Far better than the poor ergonomics offered by traditional quad rail designs. |
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Thanks. Any time!
The JP buffer has been reliable for me from use of TAP rounds to cheap steel cased Wolff ammo. It certainly makes cycling the action smoother and quieter. Combined with my other enhancements , you can chamber a round with a single finger with ease. No issues with the bolt locking back on the last round either. |
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