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Posted: 4/8/2013 10:50:32 PM EDT
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I'm currently in the process of my first build. So far I have a complete Daniel Defense M4V1 upper and a stripped Seekins SP223 lower with the ambi bolt release installed. I'm leaning towards a Geissele SSA or SSA-E. This weapon will be for all around use and home defense (although I would probably grab my 12 gauge if shit hit the fan).
My question is what else do I need to fill out the lower? I know I won't need the trigger guard or bolt release. From what I understand, I also won't need the trigger pin or hammer pin or springs since they come with the Geissele trigger. I'm probably going to have to buy each part individually because I want an upgraded grip and safety selector that don't come with a LPK. So a list of the parts I need would be a HUGE help as well as any recommendations on manufactures I should be looking at. Thanks guys! |
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This helped me with my build figure out what was needed to put a lower receiver together.
http://www.ar15.com/content/guides/assembly/lower/ Check out The Citizens Armory for small individual parts. I used them to order a few ejection port cover springs, and they offered USPS First Class Mail which made the shipping extremely cheap, and getting my parts shipped out was expedient. http://www.thecitizensarmory.com/AR-15_c_10.html |
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Ok,
I'm not sold on after market triggers...I have some...I like them, but after some work...stock is 95% as good...compared to a fully setup trigger... So, I'd buy a Psa lower build kit... That's palmetto state ..Link Seriously, even the extra parts are good to have available... Just pick your furniture and build... Then after build or during it do the cheap trigger job...it will feel nice... Or run1000 rounds through...that when the trigger feels nice without much work, just gets worn in... Bret |
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Ok, I'm not sold on after market triggers...I have some...I like them, but after some work...stock is 95% as good...compared to a fully setup trigger... So, I'd buy a Psa lower build kit... That's palmetto state ..Link Seriously, even the extra parts are good to have available... Just pick your furniture and build... Then after build or during it do the cheap trigger job...it will feel nice... Or run1000 rounds through...that when the trigger feels nice without much work, just gets worn in... Bret +1 |
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OP -
If you have no need for the bolt release / trigger guard / safety selector / fire control group, you could always go to White Oak Armament and buy the rest of your parts (pivot pin, take down pin, detents and springs, buffer retainer and springs) individually, or just grab a LPK without a fire control group. White Oak also has reasonable shipping (won't charge $13 for UPS to ship you a small bag of parts). I'm also going to disagree with a few posters above me. Will a stock trigger get the job done? - YES. Both will make the rifle go boom with the same effectiveness. Is a Geiselle SSA-E that much better? - YES. For someone that says a stock is 95% of what a Geiselle is, I'd seriously question if they had actually used one, their experience level, and what their need/application was. Do you NEED a SSA or SSA-E over a stock trigger? - Only you can make that call. I have stock triggers and SSA-E triggers currently at this moment. Both have their uses and both are in different rifles of mine, and meet my needs depending on my application. |
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Absolutely no comparison between a stock trigger and a Giessele SSA-E. I just put a SSA-E in my SPR and it made a night and day difference.
That being said....I don't think I would put a SSA-E in my general use AR. They are very touchy triggers so I will stick with standard mil-spec triggers For general use. |
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Well,
First off I have many after market triggers...including geissele... Not I didn't say stock trigger...I said after a trigger job... Stock is way to long of a pull, it's gravel to boarding on boulders durring the huge 5+ lbs pull weight... After cleaning and polishing and sometimes truing up mating services, plus set screw to take up the sack and either moded springs or jp springs it I'd 95% Now, on most my builds I run the modified .mil trigger... Except on my distance and precission rigs...but they are in that 5%... Now it's easier to throw cash at things...I've done that sometimes...but on a first build I'd say stick with the .mil and ten do a trigger job...you'll learn much more about how the mating surfaces meet and exactly how the disco/sear work in combination... Bret |
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I'm currently in the process of my first build. So far I have a complete Daniel Defense M4V1 upper and a stripped Seekins SP223 lower with the ambi bolt release installed. I'm leaning towards a Geissele SSA or SSA-E. This weapon will be for all around use and home defense (although I would probably grab my 12 gauge if shit hit the fan). My question is what else do I need to fill out the lower? I know I won't need the trigger guard or bolt release. From what I understand, I also won't need the trigger pin or hammer pin or springs since they come with the Geissele trigger. I'm probably going to have to buy each part individually because I want an upgraded grip and safety selector that don't come with a LPK. So a list of the parts I need would be a HUGE help as well as any recommendations on manufactures I should be looking at. Thanks guys! Well, as you said, you've got the trigger guard built in and the bolt release already installed. You are correct, if you buy a Geiselle, it will come with the pins and springs. You mentioned the grip and safety selector. You'll need a screw for the grip if it doesn't come with one. You'll need a spring and detent for the safety selector if it doesn't come with one. That leaves your magazine catch/button/spring, your takedown and pivot pins as well as the springs and detents for those. Also the buffer tube, buffer retainer and spring, buffer and buffer spring, castle nut, the end plate (extension plate) and a stock... I think that's everything. |
| I have a Geissele SSA on my AR and a SSA-E on the AR I'm building for my wife. The SSA-E is definitely lighter, crispier, and more of a target/hunting trigger. The SSA is just a bit more stout than the SSA-E and is what you'd want for more of a practical, do-all rifle if you were choosing between the two. As far as comparing these triggers to a stock AR trigger, there is no comparison. Geissele triggers are just awesome. I have never used a stock trigger that has been "worked" so I cannot comment on that. |
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