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Posted: 11/3/2012 6:23:10 AM EDT
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I am running a stock trigger right now. Looking into running something else.
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I am running a stock trigger right now. Looking into running something else. Thanks.
Read this http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/366464_Trigger_Fire_Control_Groups_tested_and_evaluated___the_and_34_BESTand_34__trigger_for_you___.html |
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So you are looking for suggestions or are just making a statement?
There are many triggers you can upgrade to and it depends on your budget and purpose. Geissele is a great company and you can expect to pay probably somewhere around the $200 mark for one. I like their SD line which offers a flat faced trigger which gives a perceived lighter pull. Clean breaks and great resets there. They also have a sister company called ALG defense which was founded by Amy Geissele (Bill's wife). They offer two triggers which are variants of the stock milspec trigger. Their "quality milspec trigger" (QMS) is $45 and is basically a fine tuned stock trigger for a clean break and no grit. They also offer their ALG combat trigger (ACT) for $65 which is nickel boron coated and is slightly cleaner than the QMS. Besides Geissele there is Jard, Timney, Wilson, etc. I'm not as familiar with all the other brands so someone else will have to comment about those. It would help if we know what you intend to use the gun for as not all triggers serve the same purpose. |
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You must decide between Single-stage or two-stage.
No creep/take-up, crisp break, the least amount of trigger travel - single-stage Smooth take-up, smooth break - two-stage Then: Single-stage - JP-EZ trigger or their original I have found to be the best. ATC AR-gold, Timney, Wilson and Jard are others. The AR-gold is used by Miculek. I have a Timney and it is nice but not as good as my JP-EZ if set right. Have not tried the Jard or Wilson. ETA- there have been post in the past few months about guys having issues with their Timney. I have also heard years previously they don't hold up for run and gun type use. Fine for the bench. Two-stage - Geissele has many options and by far the best two-stage triggers out there. |
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I'm with btm7687 on this.
I have several toys. But on all of my builds I use Geissele Triggers. Not on A1's or A2's that are collector grade, just the usual shooters. I also only use the enhanced version. It's amazing how much of a difference that flat trigger bow can make Actually I have tried their ACT, it's in a DPMs .308 build now, but it will be replaced with a Geissle. I have 1 Colt M4 that has a stock Colt trigger in it, but it will go at some time. My 6940 is running a SD-3G Having played with Geissele triggers a lot I have decided that for me, at least. My favorite trigger is their SD-3G. While not for everyone It. my favorite Fastest resetting, lightest trigger I have ever used. But that's just me. You have to find out what is best for you. That's part of the fun with the AR platform !! |
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Hipertouch by Hiperfire. Works as advertised. It can be set for a 2.5# pull and still ignite Wolf ammo. Google it now and thank me later. There is NO reason to go to 2.5# for an AR, let alone I don't see reason going below 4# unless shooting in something like high power - stationary stable position. Sub-MOA shooting is quite possible with 4.5# and near MOA with a decent stock trigger. |
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Hipertouch by Hiperfire. Works as advertised. It can be set for a 2.5# pull and still ignite Wolf ammo. Google it now and thank me later. There is NO reason to go to 2.5# for an AR, let alone I don't see reason going below 4# unless shooting in something like high power - stationary stable position. Sub-MOA shooting is quite possible with 4.5# and near MOA with a decent stock trigger. No reason not to, seeing that it's personal preference. I have a 2# in a .308 AR, 2.5# in a 20" precision 5.56 AR, and a 3# in a 18" precision 5.56 AR - love 'em. |
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Hipertouch by Hiperfire. Works as advertised. It can be set for a 2.5# pull and still ignite Wolf ammo. Google it now and thank me later. There is NO reason to go to 2.5# for an AR, let alone I don't see reason going below 4# unless shooting in something like high power - stationary stable position. Sub-MOA shooting is quite possible with 4.5# and near MOA with a decent stock trigger. No reason not to, seeing that it's personal preference. I have a 2# in a .308 AR, 2.5# in a 20" precision 5.56 AR, and a 3# in a 18" precision 5.56 AR - love 'em. Safety would be a big reason not to. It is personal preference but are you really improving your groups that much with that light of a trigger? Doubtful. |
| Yeah I'm not a fan of super light triggers on AR's, but that's only because I don't have a precision build yet. I wouldn't say they don't ever serve a purpose, but I'd say the majority of people set their carbines up as a "combat" carbine in which I'd say a 2.5# trigger is a little unnecessary. However, for a precision build I see no reason why that light of a trigger is a bad thing. |
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Makes a big difference. Try one. I have no problem shooting sub-MOA with good ammo and a 4# trigger. Plus I don't just sit at a bench to shoot with my guns. Neither do I, just sit at a bench and shoot my guns, and I love my light triggers. If you haven't tried a lighter trig, your opinion is worthless. |
| I love single stage triggers. I have the Timney 4 lb triggers in my S&W 15 Sport AR and in my DPMS LR 308. They are fantastic triggers. I tried the Wilson Trigger at a LGS and it felt just as good and maybe just very slightly better than the Timney. But it wouldn't work in the LR 308. When I pulled the trigger with the safety on it would trip the trigger, not safe!! AR 308s don't have any standards like the AR 15s, so the pin holes were just enough off that the Wilson wouldn't work. The Timney works great. |
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I just put a Geissele SSA-E in a Mega lower I am building out, it is 2 stage super clean super crisp, specs say 3.5 lb
It feels as good as the C&S tactical II FCG in my Kimber (it does have take up) I dropped $210 on it and feel it is the best dollar per performance I have spent on my ARs It is a straight drop in, (with a handy slave pin for the trigger / disconnector), and runs Full power springs for positive ignition of any primers. It is pretty light for a non target / match AR, the standard Geissele SSA would probably be better for a serious purpose AR but this build is going to be my SPR with a Noveske SPR barrel, and 16x scope. |
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Hipertouch by Hiperfire. Works as advertised. It can be set for a 2.5# pull and still ignite Wolf ammo. Google it now and thank me later. There is NO reason to go to 2.5# for an AR, let alone I don't see reason going below 4# unless shooting in something like high power - stationary stable position. Sub-MOA shooting is quite possible with 4.5# and near MOA with a decent stock trigger. No reason not to, seeing that it's personal preference. I have a 2# in a .308 AR, 2.5# in a 20" precision 5.56 AR, and a 3# in a 18" precision 5.56 AR - love 'em. Safety would be a big reason not to. It is personal preference but are you really improving your groups that much with that light of a trigger? Doubtful. Woah! I did'nt mean to start a pissing contest. I only meant that it is adjustable to 2.5#. Anywhere from 2 to 4 lbs. Has a very crisp break. It was just my .02. |
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Makes a big difference. Try one. I have no problem shooting sub-MOA with good ammo and a 4# trigger. Plus I don't just sit at a bench to shoot with my guns. Neither do I, just sit at a bench and shoot my guns, and I love my light triggers. If you haven't tried a lighter trig, your opinion is worthless. Reading is good but so is reading comprehension. I have tried light triggers and do see where they are more applicable - "...shooting in something like high power - stationary stable position." Guys think they need these super light triggers to shoot good groups and it just isn't true. As far as the Hipertouch, I see much more mechanical moving parts for blown primers to get caught in or break. |
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Like the others said, it starts with the shooter's preferences:
- Single stage or two-stage - Adjustable or non-adjustable - 4.5 lbs plus for duty, or less than that for casual shooting There are numerous products to choose from, and no easy way to try them out before you buy. Personally, I prefer two-stage, adjustable and as close to 2 lbs as practical. The best choice for that combination IMO is Geissele's top of the line match trigger. If I wanted single stage, my choice would be JP Rifles EZ package. Both of these run about $280/each. If cost is an issue, the GI trigger can be greatly improved with some fine sandpaper for the engagement surfaces, a set of JP yellow springs for about $10 and some moly grease. - CW |
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Like the others said, it starts with the shooter's preferences: - Single stage or two-stage - Adjustable or non-adjustable - 4.5 lbs plus for duty, or less than that for casual shooting There are numerous products to choose from, and no easy way to try them out before you buy. Personally, I prefer two-stage, adjustable and as close to 2 lbs as practical. The best choice for that combination IMO is Geissele's top of the line match trigger. If I wanted single stage, my choice would be JP Rifles EZ package. Both of these run about $280/each. If cost is an issue, the GI trigger can be greatly improved with some fine sandpaper buffing for the engagement surfaces, a set of JP yellow springs for about $10 and some moly grease. - CW Do not take sandpaper to your trigger - also this type of trigger work is not recommended by most. Much wiser and safer to buy something better. The JP spring sets are a good idea though |
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