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5/5/2012 6:21:48 AM EDT
Just got a brake and it wont even come close to timing correctly with the crush washer. Where can I find some type of washer to do the job. I have searched a lot of dealers sites and all I find is crush washers.
5/5/2012 6:46:34 AM EDT
[#1]
Maybe a peel washer...?
5/5/2012 7:59:06 AM EDT
[#2]
Maybe search for muzzle device shims?
5/5/2012 8:26:27 AM EDT
[#3]
PWS Shim Kit

Choose correct size........ 5.56 or .308
5/5/2012 1:14:28 PM EDT
[#4]
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Just got a brake and it wont even come close to timing correctly with the crush washer. Where can I find some type of washer to do the job. I have searched a lot of dealers sites and all I find is crush washers.


Did you actually crush the washer?  I have never seen one that would not give you at least a full turn after making contact.  That should time anything.  Perhaps you just need to apply more torque/crush.  Put some oil on the barrel threads and both sides of your washer before installing it.
5/5/2012 1:54:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Be sure the clamp the barrel properly in a vice. A crush washer should allow approx a full rotation so I can't imagine why you are having problems with it.
5/5/2012 4:11:21 PM EDT
[#6]
I did an ops inc brake and it was almost worst case scenario, was able to get over a full turn with crush washer... AFTER contact.

I busted my wood blocks for barrel clamp in the process
5/6/2012 4:11:19 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
PWS Shim Kit

Choose correct size........ 5.56 or .308


Okay maybe I'm reading this wrong. When I started the checkout process, they asked for my e-mail address and password. Do they want a password just for their system, or the password I use to access my e-mail account?
TIA, Ray
5/6/2012 4:32:12 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
PWS Shim Kit

Choose correct size........ 5.56 or .308


Okay maybe I'm reading this wrong. When I started the checkout process, they asked for my e-mail address and password. Do they want a password just for their system, or the password I use to access my e-mail account?
TIA, Ray

Make up a password for their site...
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5/6/2012 5:52:42 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
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PWS Shim Kit

Choose correct size........ 5.56 or .308


Okay maybe I'm reading this wrong. When I started the checkout process, they asked for my e-mail address and password. Do they want a password just for their system, or the password I use to access my e-mail account?
TIA, Ray

Make up a password for their site...
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Had to include the smartass, didn't ya'.
5/6/2012 6:04:52 AM EDT
[#10]
After contact is made with the crush washer, turn the brake about 90 degrees and then back it off.  Advance the brake 90 degrees past where you stopped the previous time, and back it off.  I kept doing this with a BattleComp and I was surprised with how much the washer actually crushed.  
5/6/2012 10:31:06 AM EDT
[#11]
I thought you weren't supposed to back off a crush washer? Hmm. Guess I learned something new today
5/6/2012 10:50:31 AM EDT
[#12]
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I thought you weren't supposed to back off a crush washer? Hmm. Guess I learned something new today

On the final crush you don't...
He's talking about working up to the desired index point.

But then you have to ask yourself, how much torque do I want to put on my muzzle when muzzle device torque is called out at 15-20 ft lbs ?
5/7/2012 12:10:56 PM EDT
[#13]
It's called a jam nut.

This muzzle break uses one

It works the same way a jam nut does on some FF handguards or essentially the same as your buffer tube castle nut.
5/7/2012 12:22:38 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
It's called a jam nut.

This muzzle break uses one

It works the same way a jam nut does on some FF handguards or essentially the same as your buffer tube castle nut.

It's a brake not a break and what does this have to do with the OP's question ?
5/8/2012 12:46:53 AM EDT
[#15]
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It's called a jam nut.

This muzzle break uses one

It works the same way a jam nut does on some FF handguards or essentially the same as your buffer tube castle nut.

It's a brake not a break and what does this have to do with the OP's question ?


Well, perhaps the OP should be using a jam nut instead of a crush washer????????????
5/8/2012 12:53:56 AM EDT
[#16]
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It's called a jam nut.

This muzzle break uses one

It works the same way a jam nut does on some FF handguards or essentially the same as your buffer tube castle nut.

It's a brake not a break and what does this have to do with the OP's question ?


Well, perhaps the OP should be using a jam nut instead of a crush washer????????????

WESCOG ????????????
5/8/2012 5:34:38 AM EDT
[#17]
The OP is correct, crush washers may not give you 360 degrees, and depending on the brake you may need it.

Brownells sells shims if pws is giving you trouble.  You may want to use them w/o the crush washer.

Jam nuts are an option

You can also take some material off the back of the brake until it clocks with the crush washer or even without.
5/8/2012 11:15:47 AM EDT
[#18]
Try crushing the washer. Crush washers can be crushed 1.5 turns after finger tight. No need to sand or pre crush in a vice.
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