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Posted: 10/27/2011 5:10:05 PM EDT
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Well, I've never been particularly interested in AR's, but with kits so cheap, I thought I'd try my hand at building one. No special tools at all; all I used was a brass headed hammer, a set of brass punches, a wood block, a screwdriver and some masking tape to protect the lower while driving in roll pins. I printed some instructions off this site and had it done in 1 - 1 1/2 hours. Since I have yet to buy an AR multi-tool, I didn't really crank the nut on the stock down yet.
Nothing fancy, a PSA lower and a Del-Ton 16" dissipator upper: http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Auctions/Rightfullnohg.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Auctions/Leftfullnohg.jpg Found a carry handle at a little local gun shop priced right and put it on: http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Auctions/Rightfull.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Auctions/Leftfull.jpg T'Was fun! My plan now is to sell it before I'm tempted to fire it, and then build another. GG |
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Building with the intent to sell is not taken lightly by our ATF overlords.
You have no intention of firing this one and are planning on building a second one? Do you plan on shooting the next one or are you trying to flip that as well? Better hide your dog and prepare your anus |
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Building with the intent to sell is not taken lightly by our ATF overlords.
You have no intention of firing this one and are planning on building a second one? Do you plan on shooting the next one or are you trying to flip that as well? Better hide your dog and prepare your anus Hmmm....never seen that rule on the ATF website. Enlighten me. GG |
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Building with the intent to sell is not taken lightly by our ATF overlords.
You have no intention of firing this one and are planning on building a second one? Do you plan on shooting the next one or are you trying to flip that as well? Better hide your dog and prepare your anus Hmmm....never seen that rule on the ATF website. Enlighten me. GG Building rifles with the intent to sell is considered manufacturing and requires an 07 FFL. Even something as simple as putting an upper on a lower is considered manufacturing. You can build as many as you want for personal use but if the ATF catches you building and then flipping them (profit or not) you will get tagged with dealing/manufacturing without a license which carries a maximum sentence of 5 years in federal prison and up to $250k not to mention you lose your rights to own guns as a convicted federal felon. 
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Buying parts, doing 'gunsmithing' to them, for the sole intent of making money is whats frowned upon. I can't link you the details either but look around for soemthing along those lines. They just want thier cut of your profits.
I wouldn't sell it unfired, every gun as far as I know that every major manufactures sells does at least 1-3 test fires for function. Firing 3 rounds, then cleaning it will still leave it brand new looking, just put some tape on the shell deflector so it dosen't get dinged. |
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O.K...not that I don't believe you guys, but can you please point me to the specific statute? I completely understand the implications of someone assembling and selling firearms without a license, but geez... I build an AR, decide I don't like it, sell it, and build another, and I'm breaking the law?
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O.K...not that I don't believe you guys, but can you please point me to the specific statute? I completely understand the implications of someone assembling and selling firearms without a license, but geez... I build an AR, decide I don't like it, sell it, and build another, and I'm breaking the law? Not at all. Just don't make a habit of it. |
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I know it sounds retarded, but...
Manufacturing ATF’s long-standing position is that any activities that result in the making of firearms for sale or distribution, to include installing parts in or on firearm frames and receivers, and processes that primarily enhance a firearm’s durability, constitute firearms manufacturing that may require a manufacturer’s license. In contrast, some activities are not firearms manufacturing processes, and do not require a manufacturer’s license. For example, ATF Ruling 2009-1 (approved January 12, 2009) explained that performing a cosmetic process or activity, such as camouflaging or engraving, that primarily adds to or changes the appearance or decoration of a firearm is not manufacturing. Likewise, ATF Ruling 2009-2 (approved January 12, 2009) stated that installing “drop-in” replacement parts in or on existing, fully assembled firearms does not result in any alteration to the original firearms. Persons engaged in the business of these activities that do not constitute firearms manufacturing need only obtain a dealer’s license. Although installing parts in or on firearms, and applying special coatings and treatments to firearms are manufacturing activities, the definition of “manufacturer” in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(10) and 27 CFR 478.11 also requires that a person be “engaged in the business” before the manufacturer’s license requirement of section 923(a) applies. Thus, a person who manufactures a firearm will require a manufacturer’s license if he/she devotes time, attention, and labor to such manufacture as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the firearms manufactured. If the person is performing such services only for a customer on firearms provided by that customer, and is not selling or distributing the firearms manufactured, the person would be a “dealer” as defined by 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(11)(B) and 27 CFR 478.11, requiring a dealer’s license, assuming the person is “engaged in the business” as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(21)(D) and 27 CFR 478.11 (i.e., “gunsmithing”). http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2010-10.htm |
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Retarded was exactly what I was thinking. "......constitute firearms manufacturing that may require a manufacturer’s license. " WTH? Does it, or does it not?
"In contrast, a dealer-gunsmith may make or acquire his/her own firearms, and repair, modify, embellish, refurbish, or install parts in or on those firearms. If the dealer-gunsmith then sells or distributes those firearms for livelihood and profit, the dealer-gunsmith is engaged in his/her own business of manufacturing firearms." ????? Thanks for the links/info! GG |
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