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Posted: 7/20/2010 11:23:06 PM EDT
| I'm building a Noveske 14.5" light carbine w/ a Eotech & BUIS. I'm not sure if the money of a free floated railed hand guard is worth it. I want to put a railed hand guard on it but is $300 apposed to $140 really worth it? The military used a simple drop in right? This isn't a match gun its a shtf gun. It has to be battle accurate not sniper accurate. Will I see a big improvement with a free float hand guard? Its a 14.5" barrel. I'm thinking maby a simple DD drop in. I guess my goal is the most accurate I can get but still tough. What if I drop it with a free float? What hand guard dose the military use on there M4s? |
so the question still stands
| Unless you are trying to shoot sub MOA at 200m then you dont need it. If all you want is to hit vital area drop in is fine. Chances are an off the rack m4 with the Knights rail, or standard oval handguards is more acurrate than 80% of the people on this forum anyway. |
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not sure if I want to use a sling. Why would resting the barrel up against a barricade do anything more then holding the rifle? its still just supporting the weight of the rifle. Ideally, it won't, but if you're doing anything other than just standing there, you'll be applying some pressure to it. Try sprinting up to an obstacle while the clock is running and shooting semi-supported without putting any side-side pressure on the barrel. |
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I’m in a similar predicament. I like the YHM Smooth Handguard with the small rail sections, but it’s free float so I’d have to install them, get the tools, etc. Is it worth it or should I just go with a drop in rail system with covers?
Both of my guns are 16” so on the one hand I’m not looking for 1/2 MOA, but then again, why not get as much accuracy out of my gun as I can? There also comes in to play that if I get the tools and do it myself I’m 1) learning more about how the system works which is always good 2) have the ability to install/change barrels and handguards/rails and also possible fix things in the future if I should have issues and 3) have the satisfaction of a job well done if I don’t screw it up. Really thinking about going ahead and getting the tools and doing what I think I really want instead of wishing I had every time I look at my gun. |
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Get the tools, it's worth it. If you have multiple rifles you can bet your bottom dollar that you'll use 'em again. Besides, it feels really empowering to be able to strip the entire rifle down to its base components. If you're even remotely mechanically inclined, then it's not really that big of a job and Brownell's has videos that show you the whole process:
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/lid=10343/guntechdetail/href= I installed a Midwest Industries SS7 handguard (which is awesome, by the way) on my first ever AR-15, so if I could do it as a n00b, you can now! |
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I'm building a Noveske 14.5" light carbine w/ a Eotech & BUIS. I'm not sure if the money of a free floated railed hand guard is worth it. I want to put a railed hand guard on it but is $300 apposed to $140 really worth it? The military used a simple drop in right? This isn't a match gun its a shtf gun. It has to be battle accurate not sniper accurate. Will I see a big improvement with a free float hand guard? Its a 14.5" barrel. I'm thinking maby a simple DD drop in. I guess my goal is the most accurate I can get but still tough. What if I drop it with a free float? What hand guard dose the military use on there their M4s? KAC RAS or standard plastic M4 handguards. |
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Unless you are trying to shoot sub MOA at 200m then you dont need it. If all you want is to hit vital area drop in is fine. Chances are an off the rack m4 with the Knights rail, or standard oval handguards is more acurrate than 80% of the people on this forum anyway. question for you - what's the difference between sub MOA at 200 m and sub MOA at 50m? sub moa is sub moa, no? |
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YHM makes a two piece gas block that fits under all Free-Floats.....and since its two-piece.....no need to worry about a pinned FH. As seen here on a 14.5" pinned http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv276/ridektm68/100_1416.jpg Oh, and that YHM Spectre Free Float can be picked up for around $100 +/- if you look for a deal. Who makes that stock you're running? |
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YHM makes a two piece gas block that fits under all Free-Floats.....and since its two-piece.....no need to worry about a pinned FH. As seen here on a 14.5" pinned http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv276/ridektm68/100_1416.jpg Oh, and that YHM Spectre Free Float can be picked up for around $100 +/- if you look for a deal. Who makes that stock you're running? M.D.T. Me, Dremel, and Tapco 
It has since been replaced with a CTR.........got sick of it rattling around |
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Unless you are trying to shoot sub MOA at 200m then you dont need it. If all you want is to hit vital area drop in is fine. Chances are an off the rack m4 with the Knights rail, or standard oval handguards is more acurrate than 80% of the people on this forum anyway. question for you - what's the difference between sub MOA at 200 m and sub MOA at 50m? sub moa is sub moa, no? about 2 inches. it is a lot harder for a person to shoot sub moa at 200m than 50m. a standard M4 with an acog will shoot sub moa at 200m easy. but can the person pulling the trigger? |
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Unless you are trying to shoot sub MOA at 200m then you dont need it. If all you want is to hit vital area drop in is fine. Chances are an off the rack m4 with the Knights rail, or standard oval handguards is more acurrate than 80% of the people on this forum anyway. question for you - what's the difference between sub MOA at 200 m and sub MOA at 50m? sub moa is sub moa, no? about 2 inches. Ah, very, very funny.
it is a lot harder for a person to shoot sub moa at 200m than 50m. Maybe, wind and some people don't have good vision. I guess I can agree mostly with this. a standard M4 with an acog will shoot sub moa at 200m easy. OK, here's where I strongly disagree as most rack grade issue rifles/carbines are viewed as "4 moa" guns. Plus kind of hard to shoot sub moa at range without free floating the barrel. Or maybe I just can't shoot... 
but can the person pulling the trigger? |
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YHM makes a two piece gas block that fits under all Free-Floats.....and since its two-piece.....no need to worry about a pinned FH. As seen here on a 14.5" pinned http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv276/ridektm68/100_1416.jpg Oh, and that YHM Spectre Free Float can be picked up for around $100 +/- if you look for a deal. Who makes that stock you're running? M.D.T. Me, Dremel, and Tapco
It has since been replaced with a CTR.........got sick of it rattling around Gotcha. I wondered if it was a home hack job. 
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