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2/10/2010 6:28:23 AM EDT
I've seen skeletonized lowers somewhere before, but I can't remember where. My son and I are going to build a rifle, and I want it as light as possible, but with a standard weight barrel. I thought a skeletonized lower would be a good place to start. Can anyone tell me where I can get the lightest lower possible?
2/10/2010 6:36:58 AM EDT
[#1]
I remember seeing those as well.  If you want the lightest possible though I would look at Cavarms lowers.  Also why not go with a lightweight barrel?  It would definitely save weight with no downsides added.
2/10/2010 6:44:45 AM EDT
[#2]
iirc, the skeletonized lower was for the post ban OA93, to keep overall weight below 50 oz. for a pistol.
The Cavarms unit is probably your best bet for a reliable LW product.
2/10/2010 7:35:51 AM EDT
[#3]
I'm just not a fan of plastic lowers, so the Cav is out.
2/10/2010 11:04:03 AM EDT
[#4]
I haven't yet seen a skeletonized lower, but I can imagine pairing one with a dimpled barrel (like the pix below from www.ar15barrels.com) to make a lightweight rifle that looks like no other one...

2/10/2010 11:50:17 AM EDT
[#5]
There was a thread on here where a guy did it himself, and he even drilled holes through the grip.
2/10/2010 12:03:36 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I'm just not a fan of plastic lowers, so the Cav is out.


Well in that case, I would go with a lightweight barrel and something like the VTAC handguard from JP/Viking Tactics to help save weight.
2/10/2010 12:44:19 PM EDT
[#7]
Try ACE stocks.  I bought one a couple of months ago and I love it.  Cheapest place I've seen it

http://store.a51tactical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1769¤cy=USD
2/10/2010 1:26:54 PM EDT
[#8]
SMOS (the same pace that makes LaRue lowers) makes them.  IIRC, it's billet though, so doubt you'd be saving much if any weight over a standard forged lower.
 
2/10/2010 1:41:52 PM EDT
[#9]
Is THIS what you are talking about?
2/10/2010 1:50:26 PM EDT
[#10]
fluted barrel + cav arms lower
2/10/2010 2:07:13 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Is THIS what you are talking about?


That's not the one the I've seen before, but I like it. I'm guessing that that is a custom job.
2/10/2010 2:07:51 PM EDT
[#12]
idk if its been mentioned yet but he cav arms lowers have a lifetime warenty
2/10/2010 2:11:56 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Is THIS what you are talking about?


I like. :-)
2/10/2010 2:12:04 PM EDT
[#14]
please don't do this.
2/10/2010 3:00:52 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Is THIS what you are talking about?


That's not the one the I've seen before, but I like it. I'm guessing that that is a custom job.


As I mentioned before, it was an attempt by Oly Arms to lighten their OA93 pistol to keep it under the 50 oz limit in the AW ban.  It was the short lived OA98.

2/10/2010 3:09:43 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I haven't yet seen a skeletonized lower, but I can imagine pairing one with a dimpled barrel (like the pix below from www.ar15barrels.com) to make a lightweight rifle that looks like no other one...

http://ar15barrels.com/tech/dimpling.jpg


Why run that when there are a bunch of pencil barrels hitting the market?
2/10/2010 7:33:04 PM EDT
[#17]
The total weight of a stripped lower is pretty negligible (9 oz)... The weight saved by skeletonizing it is virtually nil. If you wanna do it for the looks, cool (I think it looks kinda cool).

But if you want a light rifle, you're talking about shaving MAYBE 5%-7% of the 9oz. that it weighs in the first place.

Save the weight in the barrel and the stock. Don't bolt a bunch of accessories onto it. Forgo a rail/ff tube... Maybe even consider doing an SBR.

Those investments will yield a MUCH better return, than skeletonizing the lower; and won't result in possible weakening of the rifle.
2/11/2010 5:30:13 AM EDT
[#18]
Forgive my ignorance-I thought you wanted a skeletonized stock, not lower.  Should read a little better next time.
2/11/2010 6:59:44 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
fluted barrel + cav arms lower


A pencil profile would be  lighter.
2/11/2010 7:06:07 AM EDT
[#20]
OK, I've given up on this. I'm just going to go with a billet lower and save weight elsewhere.
2/11/2010 10:31:52 AM EDT
[#21]
Good idea.  That would be the last place I would look to drop weight, unless it was a steel receiver design.  It is a shame you aren't pro plastic.  The CavArms lowers are considered to be excellent, and survive being run over by vehicles.  And if for some reason you are able to destroy it (even deliberately) they will replace it for a nominal fee (iirc, $30-40).

How many other companies would replace a receiver if you called and said it was crushed by a loaded dumptruck running over it?
2/11/2010 11:00:01 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I haven't yet seen a skeletonized lower, but I can imagine pairing one with a dimpled barrel (like the pix below from www.ar15barrels.com) to make a lightweight rifle that looks like no other one...

http://ar15barrels.com/tech/dimpling.jpg


That thing should say "Titliest" on it somewhere......

2/11/2010 12:26:00 PM EDT
[#23]
If weight is of primary concern there are manufacturers that make carbon fiber lowers and uppers.  Bushmaster is probably the most well known manufacturer of carbon fiber rifles.
I own the Bushmaster Carbon15 M4, and I've been quite pleased with it.  Some people dont like the carbon rifles, but mine is accurate and 100% reliable.
Another thing I love about that rifle is the raised upper rail puts red dot optics like the micro T1 and clones in perfect co-witness with the iron sights without the need for an expensive riser.
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