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2/5/2010 11:01:34 PM EDT
Well I've made my mind up. "I want an AR".  I never thought I would want one until my son-in-law brought his home. Now I'm hooked. He has a DPMS, it shoots pretty well. I have no experience with different AR's so I know I'll be asking some questions. I do all my own gun work, a former Glock armorer and the such so building will not be a problem for me. My first project will be my lower. After all the reading my eyes can stand it looks like there are just too many options out there. When it comes to lowers - how are the standard triggers? The DPMS I've shot seems a little harsh for me. I like smooth clean breaks. I replace all my Glocks with the 3 1/2 lb'ers. I don't expect a great trigger for a stock trigger but I am sure some are better than others. Looking at some of the kits on my list - Del-Ton, Stag, Spikes, RRA(not the 2 stage), CMMG, is there one that shines above the rest? I may be overlooking one if so please tell me. I would like to build a very dependable lower without breaking the bank but I would rather step up the price a little than be sorry later. I do not want to go "all out" on my first build. I am sure I will make adjustments and add ons as I play with the rifle. I would like a good platform with a decent trigger. What do you think and why. Thanks
2/6/2010 12:28:18 AM EDT
[#1]
Standard trigger are great for a fighting rifle but you won't get that smooth clean glass break you want.  As for LPKs, I have always like the RRA kits.
2/6/2010 4:28:22 AM EDT
[#2]
I would suggest the RRA 2 Stage LPK for that first build......I use them sometimes and they are great.I have also used Bill Springfield and Giessle.
Also some great build info's tacked above but i learn best from "demonstration-performance method "...look at these videos...
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/lid=11004/guntechdetail/How_to_Build_An_AR-15_Video
2/6/2010 5:10:02 AM EDT
[#3]
I disagree that a 2-stage trigger is the way to go on a general-purpose/only AR.  I'd go with a standard trigger setup, but I'd send it to Bill Springfield to have him smooth and lighten it.  In fact, I'm about to send him one of my fire control groups to work on because I like how the first one I got from him works.

If/when you buy or build a more precision-oriented gun, then I'd go with a 2-stage or other precision trigger.
2/6/2010 6:05:26 AM EDT
[#4]
Since you like to "roll your own" you might be interested in this thread about modifing stock fire control groups. You can make a decent 4-5 lb trigger by polishing the sear surfaces, adding lighter springs and the set screw mod.
Also check out Sargent at home 15 minute trigger job
2/6/2010 6:41:19 AM EDT
[#5]
i dont like the creep on the DPMS trigeers. i love my RRA single stage trigger. do as travis does and run milspec.
2/6/2010 6:44:58 AM EDT
[#6]
Lightening springs can lead to FTFi on hard primered military ammo.

I polish the engaging surfaces of mine and that's it. I also trial different trigger and hammer sets to find the ones that work best best with each other. The failures become spares.

BSW
2/6/2010 7:29:11 AM EDT
[#7]
I'm going to raise the BS flag on this thread...

...as in BILL SPRINGFIELD FTW.
2/6/2010 8:12:39 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I'm going to raise the BS flag on this thread...

...as in BILL SPRINGFIELD FTW.

As in you don't agree you are not a fan?   I have one....4lb job thats 7lbs 6 oz on my trigger gauge but no creep...Its been well documented.
Its actually in my SBR now....

2/6/2010 9:20:43 AM EDT
[#9]
Well as far as standard triggers the RRA is a little ahead of the rest, is this correct? Or all all standard triggers basically the same? Are there some I should stay away from? I see several people using the Del-Ton's, I also liked the CMMG's and Spikes. I plan to do a good fit and polish but I do want a good platform to start with. Thanks
2/6/2010 9:28:25 AM EDT
[#10]
The Stag is not bad, just a little stiff at first, but with a little polishing and a little break in time it lightens up.Hope this helps.
2/6/2010 11:14:56 AM EDT
[#11]
I was very happy with the quality of My ARmalite fire control group; I think for the most part, one milspec LPK is the same as the rest. There have been an inordinate amount of broken trigger pins an creep complaints about DPMS kits though. Might just be 'cause there's so many out there though.....
2/7/2010 8:11:38 AM EDT
[#12]
My Daniels Defense LPK already came smooth, but I still polished surfaces on a ceramic stone, and it IS smooth as glass and very little creep!  
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