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7/28/2009 4:46:18 AM EDT
I'm assem. a CMMG 308 lower & when I used my other DPMS upper to see how they matched up ( I plan on using a DPMS upper on this build also ) I came across some thing I didn't expect, as you will see in the  photos. The upper will only hinge or pivot just enough to remove the BCG & I mean just barely . So I e-mailed CMMG & informed them of this . I had already removed some material to let the two receivers swing or pivot farther for several reasons ,one I have never encountered a limited pivot on any AR platform I have built ,two , I kinda like to see & inspect my internals with out having to remove the upper , three ,I think if they incorporated a real stop & not a friction fit to stop the pivoting ,I might have let it go , but in the case of the upper I was using to fit ,it has a 20" HB and is on the heavy side . I did not like that much pressure on those small pivot points in the lower . Below is there response and photos . I would like your opinions . The last photo shows max amount of pivot.

That is correct.  You should just be able to remove the bolt carrier; any
extra travel is not needed.  This will also keep people from squashing
there fingers between the upper and lower or damaging handguards and
receivers.

Thank You,
Garson
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Technical Support
CMMG Inc.
P.O. Box 369
Fayette, MO. 65248
660-248-2293 ext. 73
660-248-2290 Fax






7/28/2009 5:18:20 AM EDT
[#1]
CMMG's response seems to indicate that this is "As Designed" and they don't feel it's a defect.   If that's the case, you have two choices:
1.  Modify it to behave the way you want it to behave.  Perhaps additional lubrication will loosen things up a bit.
2.  Leave it as is, and if you want to do more than remove the CH/BCG, knock the pivot pin out.

I wouldn't be overly concerned about any extra stress on the pivot point, as that will only be vulnerable during maintenance and cleaning operations.  Unless, of course, you make a habit of carrying your weapon around like that.  

You may want to try posting this over in the AR Variants forum for more opinions.

Sorry if this appears to be a smart ass response.  That's not my intent.

-Ty
7/29/2009 4:39:51 AM EDT
[#2]
I have already modified it to my spec's as per photos. I posted as to see if anyone else has a CMMG lower that is like that . I kinda believe there (CMMG )response , it may well be as designed or it could be just covering there behind because of a missed finishing procedure & it will work ,so they pass it on. I don't view your remarks as smart ass , I asked for opinions & would have taken any ,any way they came . I will post it at the Variants forum ,I just haven't got around to it yet. A little alum black & ya never knew any thing was done.
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