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4/14/2009 6:55:00 AM EDT
...and having a hell of a time. I am trying to remove it to install a YHM forearm. I had no issue when I did this with other rifles.
The pins will not budge!
Suggestions Please?
4/14/2009 7:17:16 AM EDT
[#1]
Bigger hammer!

No joke, I use a 2 lb with a nail set to start the pins. Spray some PB blaster on the pins and let them sit. Make sure you are driving the pins  the right direction and support the barrel and FSP.

Good luck!
4/14/2009 7:23:33 AM EDT
[#2]
it looks like they exit from left to right and that's how I've been hitting.

Pretty sure that's the right way.

Tried calling Bravo CO with no success.

Anyone else work on a BCM?
4/14/2009 7:28:56 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
it looks like they exit from right to left and that's how I've been hitting.



Which side is right and which side is left?
4/14/2009 7:31:27 AM EDT
[#4]
sorry left to right

4/14/2009 7:33:26 AM EDT
[#5]
Just finished soaking them with break free and have my nail sets.

Still no go. I used a heavy hammer too with the FSP and barrel supported with pieces of 2x4.

WOW!
4/14/2009 7:39:54 AM EDT
[#6]
I gave up on removing mine yesterday. Might try again today.
4/14/2009 7:41:50 AM EDT
[#7]
I've done 2 of these YHM's before. One on a RRA and the other a DPMS.

Hate to have to take this to a gunsmith or buy a much more expesive rail sysytem the does not require the FSP removal.
4/14/2009 7:41:53 AM EDT
[#8]
Clearly, the upper does not want the YHM forearm.
4/14/2009 7:45:17 AM EDT
[#9]
I'm starting to feel that!
4/14/2009 7:49:23 AM EDT
[#10]
YHM does sell drop in forearms if that floats your boat.

What is the reason for the installation? Rail space?
4/14/2009 7:51:15 AM EDT
[#11]
just got the upper from BCM. They come handguardless. I have used YHM on others and found that they have worked for me and are CHEAP!
4/14/2009 7:53:49 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
just got the upper from BCM. They come handguardless. I have used YHM on others and found that they have worked for me and are CHEAP!


I just use plastic handguards with heatshields. Extra cheap. Here's how I mount a flashlight.

4/14/2009 7:56:12 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Clearly, the upper does not want the YHM forearm.




You crack me up sometimes.

The only answer is a bigger hammer, unfortunately. Have you tried heating the pins up a little with a  hair dryer?
4/14/2009 7:57:56 AM EDT
[#14]
one last try...

Then I'm going to the Surefire m73's
4/14/2009 7:59:36 AM EDT
[#15]
This is your upper:



4/14/2009 7:59:53 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Clearly, the upper does not want the YHM forearm.


LOL!

I agree!

4/14/2009 8:00:23 AM EDT
[#17]

Get a DD Omega.

4/14/2009 8:00:24 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
one last try...

Then I'm going to the Surefire m73's


Try heating the pins with a hair dryer? Or sticking the upper in the freezer overnight?
4/14/2009 8:00:38 AM EDT
[#19]
All the while VERY funny but has anyone worked woith a BCM upper.
I am pretty sure I'm trying to beat the pins out the correct way.
4/14/2009 8:04:22 AM EDT
[#20]
Have access to calipers?
4/14/2009 8:05:57 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Have access to calipers?


If he was in Tampa I would let him borrow mine to see which end of the pin is larger.

My BCM upper is at my parent's house and my calipers are at home. I'll bring my upper home tonight and see which side the pins taper for you.
4/14/2009 8:06:42 AM EDT
[#22]
Just tried heat. Nada

I think I'm giving up.
4/14/2009 8:07:11 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Have access to calipers?


If he was in Tampa I would let him borrow mine to see which end of the pin is larger.

My BCM upper is at my parent's house and my calipers are at home. I'll bring my upper home tonight and see which side the pins taper for you.




Thanks
4/14/2009 8:10:15 AM EDT
[#24]
If you have any way to estimate the size of the pins, such as marking the diameter on a piece of paper, do it.

I had a BCM upper that had one pin installed from one side and another pin installed from the other side.
4/14/2009 8:14:57 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
If you have any way to estimate the size of the pins, such as marking the diameter on a piece of paper, do it.

I had a BCM upper that had one pin installed from one side and another pin installed from the other side.


Wut? No way!?

4/14/2009 8:19:23 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:
If you have any way to estimate the size of the pins, such as marking the diameter on a piece of paper, do it.

I had a BCM upper that had one pin installed from one side and another pin installed from the other side.


Wut? No way!?



Yeah. And one pin stuck out on the left and the other stuck out on the right. It shot fine. Just something to be aware of from a maintenance standpoint.
4/14/2009 8:19:47 AM EDT
[#27]
Thank you everyone for the help.

Instead of doing any damage and waiting for and paying my gunsmith, I ordered a set of DD Omega's from brightflashlights.

Anybody wanna buy a brand new never been touched YHM LW FF carbine legth?
4/14/2009 8:20:03 AM EDT
[#28]
Thank you everyone for the help.

Instead of doing any damage and waiting for and paying my gunsmith, I ordered a set of DD Omega's from brightflashlights.

Anybody wanna buy a brand new never been touched YHM LW FF carbine legth?
4/14/2009 9:03:09 AM EDT
[#29]





Quoted:



Thank you everyone for the help.





Instead of doing any damage and waiting for and paying my gunsmith, I ordered a set of DD Omega's from brightflashlights.





Anybody wanna buy a brand new never been touched YHM LW FF carbine legth?




That works too. But for future reference, BCM uses taper pins, you were correct in the way you were pounding. I took some out of a BCM upper last week, one came out relatively easy, the other was a PITA.

 






1) If you don't have any, buy some Kroil brand creeping oil and a couple "needle" type oil bottles. Stuff is awesome on cleaning guns or loosening parts. You can get it at Brownells.


2) Buy a blow torch. I just have a small hobbyist one that works fine for what I do. Heating the metal AROUND the taper pins and then going at it helps.


3) You need a solid polymer block on a concrete floor. Wood will absorb too much energy. Forget the workbench.


4) You may need a big hammer. I had to use a 3 lb hammer, hitting it pretty hard.


5) The cheap nailsets from Menard's work well to get it started. You'll probably smash the tips of one or two, if not break one.


6) Stabilize the upper, wrapped in some rags against the floor for maximum energy transfer and so you don't scratch the receiver.







I don't even screw with the small hammers and punches anymore. I kroil everything, heat it, and then give it a good whack or two with the big hammer and the nail set. Once you get that first bit of movement in the pin, you're GTG.







Enjoy your Omega rail, I'm anxiously awaiting one too


 
4/14/2009 9:52:32 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Get a DD Omega.


This.   [/problem]
4/14/2009 10:44:22 AM EDT
[#31]
I do appreciate the support.

Always wanted DD anyway. Just went with YHM because they worked and the price was right.
4/14/2009 6:13:28 PM EDT
[#32]


I checked with my calipers and you were in fact hammer in the right direction.
4/14/2009 8:51:21 PM EDT
[#33]
So how stable is the DD Omega?  I am having second thoughts about removing the FSB on my middy now....  




 
4/14/2009 9:06:20 PM EDT
[#34]


I can let you know when I get it.
4/16/2009 8:33:50 PM EDT
[#35]
SPEED OF LIGHT SHIPPING FROM BRIGHTFLASHLIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!

Got the DD Omega in FDE, (really dark FDE), and I don't know about $160 more than the YHM but... Definitely higher quality and much much much easier to assemble. Took all of 5 minutes to install.

Here are some pix of the build and my assistant, Jack Daniels.

I am still having trouble getting the YHM FH to "clock" correctly even with a new crush washer.









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